Porn Pastor

[DNB]

Only in your head. You have not supported that claim at all, nor do I think that you can. That verse is problematic since it appears that Jesus was being insanely unrealistic there. That appears to be out of character for him since he did not seem to think that prostitutes were bad. He hung out with quite a few of them One has to remember that that was written at least 50 years and more likely 60 years after Jesus died. A lot of the tales about him are simply going to be wrong.

Ok, you haven't got an ounce of comprehension of the significance of the Law, or any of Jesus' statements or actions. Jesus hung out with the outcasts and stigmatized of society because '...it is the sick that needs healing...'
Jesus' view on mental sins were not unrealistic, they were reasonable as far as the accusation is concerned, and feasible as far as the person is concerned. We all have thoughts running through our heads, both good and bad, but some people have clearly worse thoughts than others. Therefore, one rule does not fit all because everyone is in control of their thoughts, and thus each man chooses what to dwell on and what not to.
The epistles are written around 40+ AD and up, and the Gospels from 60+ AD to 90+ AD.

 

[DNB]

All couples have some varing views and some very different views. Rival and I also have a lot of views that are similar.
But she's my husband thingy. It's weird. And not a normal marriage at all. Not even real. We are good friends though.

I see (maybe not), but thank you for the explanation. ...maybe I spoke prematurely because I have only read a handful of posts from you both, so, as you said, maybe in fact there's more similarities rather than differences.
Either way, thanks again, have a good night.
...and I am still very concerned about your signature, I really hope that you know who it is that you're befriending or associating yourself with?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

...and I am still very concerned about your signature, I really hope that you know who it is that you're befriending or associating yourself with?

Yup. I am a Luciferian and member of the Satanic Temple.
Though once I was a highly devoted and very zealous Southern Baptist.

I see (maybe not), but thank you for the explanation. ...maybe I spoke prematurely because I have only read a handful of posts from you both, so, as you said, maybe in fact there's more similarities rather than differences.
Either way, thanks again, have a good night.

People can have differences and get along great and be good friends. Truly, I've never tallied the similarities and differences with my friends. My best friend was even a Trump supporter.

 

[Subduction Zone]

She's a porn star. That means, inherently, she is doing what the Bible considers sexual immorality, and doing it for a living. OT, NT, Gospels and Paul, all throughout the Bible the policies regarding sex and sexuality are very strict.

The Bible is a bad source for morals. Sex is bad but owning slaves is fine and dandy. The policies in the Bible are very strict because women were property at that time. We have improved a smidge or two since then.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok, you haven't got an ounce of comprehension of the significance of the Law, or any of Jesus' statements or actions. Jesus hung out with the outcasts and stigmatized of society because '...it is the sick that needs healing...'
Jesus' view on mental sins were not unrealistic, they were reasonable as far as the accusation is concerned, and feasible as far as the person is concerned. We all have thoughts running through our heads, both good and bad, but some people have clearly worse thoughts than others. Therefore, one rule does not fit all because everyone is in control of their thoughts, and thus each man chooses what to dwell on and what not to.
The epistles are written around 40+ AD and up, and the Gospels from 60+ AD to 90+ AD.

LOL! Such projection. By the way your source was Matthew,, written about 90 AD. 60 AD is too early of a date for any of them, but that is still thirty years after Jesus died. Before then they were probably playing a version of telephone.

And no, the Bible's views on sex are one of its biggest failings.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yeah. So Muslims are not relevant to this thread.

Also, I said "I wonder".

A porn star has promoted her website and the couples business. This is good PR. So this is just my opinion that they are no Christian, but its a good guise for brand promotion since it will attract a lot of free press. Very clever marketing. So this is not a sectarian matter mate. This is just my opinion. Maybe you know them better.

I know some of them very well. What will happen when the same sort of thing happens in Islam?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Bible is a bad source for morals. Sex is bad but owning slaves is fine and dandy. The policies in the Bible are very strict because women were property at that time. We have improved a smidge or two since then.

I never claimed otherwise, but the facts are what she does is thoroughly condemned throughout the Bible.

 

[DNB]

Yup. I am a Luciferian and member of the Satanic Temple.
Though once I was a highly devoted and very zealous Southern Baptist.

People can have differences and get along great and be good friends. Truly, I've never tallied the similarities and differences with my friends. My best friend was even a Trump supporter.

Well, my perplexity lay in the fact that you, first, described Rival as 'she' as your husband, and two, that you weren't really married but kind of, sort of???

...you were once a devout southern Baptist, and now you are a luciferian? That is, God and Jesus weren't competent, good or satisfactory enough, so you thought that lucifer or satan (the adversary) will fulfill all your desires, hopes and dreams more effectively or in accord with your own wishes?

 

[DNB]

LOL! Such projection. By the way your source was Matthew,, written about 90 AD. 60 AD is too early of a date for any of them, but that is still thirty years after Jesus died. Before then they were probably playing a version of telephone.

And no, the Bible's views on sex are one of its biggest failings.

...on the contrary, it is your views on sex that are perverted and subversive.
It appears that you have some familiarity with the Bible, so it shouldn't require much investigation to perceive the hypocrisy and misguided aspect to the 'sinners by sinners' movement and intent.
Just call a spade, a spade, whether or not you endorse their behaviour or not, or care for the Christian message at all.

 

[firedragon]

I know some of them very well. What will happen when the same sort of thing happens in Islam?

You know this porn pastor specifically or you know some people who use Christianity to propagate another porn site?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I never claimed otherwise, but the facts are what she does is thoroughly condemned throughout the Bible.

In parts, yes. But Jesus did not seem to have any problem with prostitutes. And it is hardly adultery if she does so with the full consent of her husband. In the Bible the husband would be the one that was wronged since his property was damaged.

 

[Subduction Zone]

...on the contrary, it is your views on sex that are perverted and subversive.
It appears that you have some familiarity with the Bible, so it shouldn't require much investigation to perceive the hypocrisy and misguided aspect to the 'sinners by sinners' movement and intent.
Just call a spade, a spade, whether or not you endorse their behaviour or not, or care for the Christian message at all.

That is rather extreme. And may even be against forum rules. I don't call you perverted for what you do in the bedroom and you really have no idea at all what I do. I do not think that you can fully understand the message of Jesus since you to readily accept the evil verses in the Bible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You know this porn pastor specifically or you know some people who use Christianity to propagate another porn site?

No, quite the opposite. I know people that abuse the Bible by trying to change it into a vehicle for hate.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well, my perplexity lay in the fact that you, first, described Rival as 'she' as your husband, and two, that you weren't really married but kind of, sort of???

Well, Rival is a she, and sometimes we do silly things.

...you were once a devout southern Baptist, and now you are a luciferian? That is, God and Jesus weren't competent, good or satisfactory enough, so you thought that lucifer or satan (the adversary) will fulfill all your desires, hopes and dreams more effectively or in accord with your own wishes?

Rival doesn't believe in the devil, nor is she Christian. I don't believe in a literal devil either.
And the Luciferian part didn't come until many years after I left the Church. And I left it because it was an emotional, psychological, and spiritual toxin. It was so bad I used to have nightmares of going to Hell that were so vivid I could feel the emotional anguish of being separated from Jehovah and the flames searing my flesh, and I still remember those nightmares very vividly over 20 years later. It left me with no will to live and praying for death. All the threats of Hellfire, an angry god who thinks we all deserve nothing better by default, having it constantly drilled into my head that I'm a lowly sinner, and then being trans added another layer to those torments and anguishes that few can begin to understand (especially since I'm attracted to men).
So I left, haven't looked back, and things have been consistently improving.

 

[firedragon]

No, quite the opposite. I know people that abuse the Bible by trying to change it into a vehicle for hate.

Thats not relevant.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In parts, yes. But Jesus did not seem to have any problem with prostitutes. And it is hardly adultery if she does so with the full consent of her husband. In the Bible the husband would be the one that was wronged since his property was damaged.

Jesus didn't have a problem with prostitutes, but he had a problem with what he deemed sexual immorality, and that did include thoughts and not just actions.

 

[firedragon]

Jesus didn't have a problem with prostitutes

Which verse are you referring to?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

We need to bring back sexual taboos, not let it all out.

Why?

I mean, other than "it's different to what I'm used to"? Please, be specific? Why? What specifically get's better if people are more sexually repressed?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thats not relevant.

It is very relevant.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You should read the rest.

Also, yeah, it's my worldview. I'm not seeing the problem. Everyone has one and everyone will argue in accordance with it and yes I think my worldview is the better one, otherwise I wouldn't hold it.

The problem, seems to be that you want to impose your world view onto other people. You are more than welcome to your world view. The problem is that you don't appear willing to grant that same courtesy to other people.