Pornography. Free expression of women or demeaning objectification of women?

[DallasApple]

If you are having sex specifically for money you are a prostitute period.I dont care if its for one individual paying you or a "producer" paying you.If the only way you get paid for services rendered is you perform a sexaul act you are a prostitute.

If I offered my neighbors $ 500 dollars to come to my house and have sex on my den floor for my viewing and they accepted and took the money they would be prostituting.

If you get paid to have sex you are a prostitute PERIOD ..that doesnt mean that you also arent an "actress" or "an actor" during the process of prostiting..Most are I would believe.But absent the sex you arent getting paid for any acting abililities.

You are getting paid to have sex.Not "act like " your are having sex.

Love


Dallas

 

[MysticSang'ha]

True, but then again, everyone is objectified. Whether it be age, gender, race, sex, religion, politcal views etc.

I guess this is just our way of "manifesting" these views into solid veiwing material for our own pleasure. I guess you're right, it's a reflection of our attitude.

However, personally I'm not against Porn or the idea of Pornography, so long as there's no abuse and other things like that etc.

True, but I fear now this will go off on a vague tangent. LOL

I have no problems with pornography itself. However, I sympathize with opponents on the objectification of women. The answer doesn't lie in banning porn, but in empowering women much more than what we do now.

 

[DallasApple]

True, but I fear now this will go off on a vague tangent. LOL

I have no problems with pornography itself. However, I sympathize with opponents on the objectification of women. The answer doesn't lie in banning porn, but in empowering women much more than what we do now.

Yes they need to get PAID a lot more.But unfortunaltley finding a decent looking coked up 19 year old willign to take a few hundred $'s for a film is very very easy.

Love

Dallas

 

[Aquitaine]

Yes they need to get PAID a lot more.But unfortunaltley finding a decent looking coked up 19 year old willign to take a few hundred $'s for a film is very very easy.

Love

Dallas

Ah........ so it is the Economic/Rights aspect of it that you dislike(?)

So if say, all Porn Actresses were paid decent wages, had full Employment Rights, and all Industries were under strict regulation to ensure all people hired are of sound consent and arn't abused or whatever, and that the actors are doing it purely out of choice, then would you object to Porn?

 

[dust1n]

My questions around this issue of objectification of women, I don't buy it. Women are not the only participants, and men aren't the only consumers. And...there is gay male porn that has NOTHING to do with women that is a solid genre of the industry.

I have come to the opinion that porn is an art form, because it reflects back to us our own views and fantasies of sexual experience. Of course women are seen as sexual objects because that is precisely what society does anyway - objectify women.

The problem isn't making dirty movies. That's merely a scapegoat. The problem is US.

Well said.

I would also consider porn as an art form, but like any art form, if it's intent of creation is a profit margin, it's anti-art, stating that no artistic expression is actually taking place, or the majority of purpose behind the art is monetary gain.

 

[DallasApple]

Ah........ so it is the Economic/Rights aspect of it that you dislike(?)

So if say, all Porn Actresses were paid decent wages, had full Employment Rights, and all Industries were under strict regulation to ensure all people hired are of sound consent and arn't abused or whatever, and that the actors are doing it purely out of choice, then would you object to Porn?

No I would not object to that.

Love

Dallas

 

[dust1n]

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[dust1n]

Sweet.. back open for business.

Okay, so I'm just curious what you all think.

What's a fair woman's wage for pornography? As well as man's?

 

[Black_Shuck]

I would like to see males play up their vulnerable side a bit more in porn...:flirt:

Watch romantic gay porn. lol (I did and honestly seeing a romantic couple in porn is kinda a nice alternative.)

Personally as a former hetero porn addict and a past peddler of smut, I've learn that porn is nothing more than a reflection of fantasies. If porn is made, it is made to make money off a fan base. If you think it is demeaning to men/women/etc then target the buyers not the sellers. People watch porn because they are trying to get a quick un-fulfilling bout of release and want a bit of imagery to go with it.Porn is a multi-billion dollar industry because men and women are willing to pay for that bit of fantasy.

Do I think it is demeaning to women? Nope. To men? Nope. To midgets? Nope. To _______? Nope.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Personally as a former hetero porn addict and a past peddler of smut, I've learn that porn is nothing more than a reflection of fantasies.

Bingo! :yes:

 

[TheBotanicalDolly]

In my opinion, saying porn is bad is like being an alcoholic and blaming the people who produce the alcohol. It's all in how you use it and view it. Although I admit there is some porn out there which is obviously abusing women and completely degrading them, however you have to be very gullible to believe what porn tells you.

 

[Alusky]

I say is OK if the woman is the owner of the money that is been made, so that shes the one wining and not been abused. Theres plenty tasteful porn that shows love, art and sex, not all porn shows women as objects.

Now I have more problems with animal porn, almost all of it is the objectification of animals, they almost never show foreplay and loving activities, they just go straight to sex. (like watching a cheap porno with no plot)

Thank you youtube for all the animal+animal porn, free of human objectification.