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Possible explanations for homosexuality explained.

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
this is partly my point. One side tries to discredit the others "values" in an attempt to win the debate but they are merely being hypocrites since both sides sees the other values as false or irrelevant.

Do homophobes truly see their homophobia as a value?
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Since I'm sure you love your father or mother or brother or sister, do you think you should be allowed marriage to them as well?
That is not that kid of love :facepalm:. And in case you didn´t know... incest and homosexuality are two entierly different things.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
I have experienced a lifetime of enjoyment from Shakespeare, Beethoven, Rembrandt, Tennyson and (of course) Khayyam.

I'm all FOR such rare "flaws.":D

Not to mention Aaron Copeland, Leonard Bernstein, Willa Cather, James Baldwin, Truman Capote, Michelangelo and Tchaikovsky, all rarely talented and belonging to that rare sexual minority, homosexuals.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
False, There is only one physiological response that we identify as love. Lust or sexual attraction is completely different and controlled by a separate region of the brain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lust
Love - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Homosexuality is entirely the same as sexual Familiality.

Now you're trying to tell me that same-sex couples don't love each other? :tuna: You're sadly deluded. But then it appears that you have no idea what love is, so it doesn't surprise me.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
False, There is only one physiological response that we identify as love. Lust or sexual attraction is completely different and controlled by a separate region of the brain.
Lust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Love - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Homosexuality is entirely the same as sexual Familiality.
So, my feeling for someone I would marry are the same as the feelings for my mother or father? No offense, but that is rediculus. Anyone who has experienced love knows the difference.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Now you're trying to tell me that same-sex couples don't love each other? :tuna: You're sadly deluded. But then it appears that you have no idea what love is, so it doesn't surprise me.
No, he is saying that love is love. All love is the same, there are no different forms of love. Basically, according to that argument I could just decide to marry one of my parents, since I love them :facepalm:.
 

LittleNipper

Well-Known Member
Indeed they do. :(They are quite serious about it. Their aversion goes well beyond the "yuck" factor.

Folks like Hatter are sincere. They really BELIEVE civilization is endangered by SSM.:facepalm:

Maybe they imagine that their children are in danger of accepting insincerety as fact, and trial and error as the prerequisite.
 

Zorro1227

Active Member
No, it is based on your interpretation of the evidence. Which i contend to be false.

They are not denied rights. Currently, everyone has the same opportunity to marry any member of the opposite sex if they wish to reap the benefits of marriage. :rolleyes:

Irrelevant, but no. Oxytocin, the chemical released into the female brain during climax is the same chemical released when they are hugged.
Oxytocin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:facepalm: because wiki is such a reliable source
 

Alceste

Vagabond
No, it is based on your interpretation of the evidence. Which i contend to be false.

What exactly about my "interpretation of the evidence" do you believe to be false? What is the "correct interpretation of the evidence"?

They are not denied rights. Currently, everyone has the same opportunity to marry any member of the opposite sex if they wish to reap the benefits of marriage. :rolleyes:

However, not everyone has the same opportunity to marry a person they are physically, emotionally and spiritually attracted to (except in several countries and states you seem unwilling to acknowledge exist).

You only serve to demonstrate how easy it is for a bigot to reframe concepts in a way that justifies irrational hatred of and desire to oppress a minority. Before Loving vs. Virginia, everyone had the right to marry someone of the same race, yada yada yada. I'm sure you've heard that before, but it's failed to penetrate for some reason.

Irrelevant, but no. Oxytocin, the chemical released into the female brain during climax is the same chemical released when they are hugged.
Oxytocin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, what does hugging have to do with reproduction? What does female sexual response have to do with reproduction? Surely we'd be more "reproductive" if female humans had evolved to be indiscriminate, passive recipients of the sperm from any passing male, like the Neanderthals in Clan of the Cave Bear. "Whoop, there's a male" * assumes the position *.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
So, my feeling for someone I would marry are the same as the feelings for my mother or father? No offense, but that is rediculus. Anyone who has experienced love knows the difference.
Lust and Love are different. In society we learn to control or "turn off" that lust section of the brain when regarding kin with love. Those who don't learn to turn that off often end up like McKenzie Phillips and her father:
Mackenzie Phillips claims incestuous affair with rock icon | Entertainment | Reuters
Ryan O'Neal: I Didn't Know She Was My Daughter Hollywood's Creepiest Families | GetBack Retro Images, Video, Games and Trivia

If you didn't know that someone was your sibling or parent and you saw them as physically attractive. the "Lust" section of the brain becomes active.

And since Lust is not a prerequisite for Love, nor the other way around, It can be deduced that Lust and Love are completely identifiable as separate and controllable.
 
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Kerr

Well-Known Member
Lust and Love are different. In society we learn to control or "turn off" that lust section of the brain when regarding kin with love. Those who don't learn to turn that off often end up like McKenzie Phillips and her father:
Mackenzie Phillips claims incestuous affair with rock icon | Entertainment | Reuters
Ryan O'Neal: I Didn't Know She Was My Daughter Hollywood's Creepiest Families | GetBack Retro Images, Video, Games and Trivia
You paint it in more black and white then it is.
 
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