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Practical ways to bridge the white/black USA gap

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I recommend that the media give less biased coverage to police shootings.
If they make things appear as they really do, ie, racial disparity is minimal,
then black folk won't feel singled out, & under attack by us whities.

Of course, this doesn't defeat the also very real racial disparity of cops
treating blacks worse in other ways. It's just a way to mitigate the problem.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Just trolling at this point, I thought we were having a discussion. My mistake, won't make the error again.
You're right, I will be more direct.

One platform is about fixing things, and the other is about worthless idealism.
Examples. What is a democratic platform that is worthless idealism and doesn't offer a solution to fix things? Sources please.

Utopian dreams don't feed people, get them their own homes, or keep dad living with mom.
Which dreams? Introduced by who? when?

The Dems are on this family unit destroying agenda
What agenda? Who introduced it? When? Specifics, please.

Solve the money, family, violence problems, and the racism will dissolve easily into the newfound prosperity in their lives.
None of which you have directly addressed with conservative platforms. Instead, you spend the entire paragraph trashing one side of aisle without offering contrast.

The Dems need racism to win because idealism is just a pipe dream, and racism is real.
Gotta do better than that. Which dems? Why do they need racism? What do they have to gain?

They need to give us more than this to matter...
Who is us? That is 'this'? You aren't making sense.

They have become a completely irrelevant party that only exists to stir up turds for Soros to make big money on.
Example? Source?

They'll keep doing it as long as he keeps writing the checks to them, and fake protesters and other agents of divisiveness.
Who is they? Be specific, I need examples: people, dates, location, events. If you want to have a serious discussion, you need to try.

American hasn't become more racist than it ever was, but the liberal media is spinning everything to create the divide. The other day I was watching CNN literally misquote and steer while watching a live program. It was like, wtf... that's how bad it is, the MSM and the globalists want us torn apart so we can't stop them.
Finally, something we can agree on. Popular media is a problem but it goes both ways and applies to both sides of argument.

Remember we are all Americans and on the same damn team, that's what I am trying to promote
You just spent an entire post trashing one whole side of the political spectrum without ONE example or source. Don't lie to me, you aren't trying to promote anything. You are simply using this as a spring board to go on a one dimensional rant that Fox with Friends would be envious of!

one party is trying to divide everyone and that's why I despise them.
:facepalm:
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Learning other languages is always a good thing, even if they turn out to be second languages for all involved. They will still be reminders of diversity of backgrounds and origins, which is always a good thing.

Destroying national self-identification is always a worthy goal as well.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sure its fine for there to be multiple cultures in America, but the gap I am speaking of is a specific unhealthy kind of cultural gap, one caused by slavery. I'm not talking about Black culture but slave culture. I think slave culture has survived legal slavery. We have one group of people who have always had the benefits of freedom and another whose parents were taught to be morally and mentally dependent, denied education and oppressed by authorities. Blacks were slaves and whites weren't. What are some things that both whites and blacks can do to alleviate the resultant gap?

The last comment is not really true, the first slaves here were indentured servants and nearly all of them were white. Slavery was the way for poor people of all colors to get here. The real divide is poor vs rich rather than color. Slavery for non-blacks ended sooner, that is all, but at that point getting here via boat wasn't that expensive for most people from Europe. It was more an economical thing than anything... Most of the black slaves were sold from black people to white people, and they have as much responsibility for the situation as anyone else. Slavery also was never really popular, with about 25% of households owning a slaves in the South. Many of those households were owned by black freed-men who continued doing the plantation work that they did as slaves since it was the trade they knew how to do. Thus, I chock most of the slavery narrative as poor education. They don't know how it was, but they watched Roots (complete fictional crap).

Now that the facts are sitting on the page, how exactly does this become the fault of white people? Better yet, how does this become anyone's fault but their own for electing officials that do absolutely nothing to improve their lives? I live in a congressional district that hasn't seen a Republican in 50 years, and for 50 years the poor in the region have got the shaft regardless of the color. Half of those Democrats are rotting in jail at the moment, but yea let's vote for them again. If you don't like what you got, you have to do something different. The real war is rich vs poor, and globalists vs Americanism, you have to stop voting on silly criteria like color.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Would that be the party of The Southern Strategy?
Tom

I'm only pro-Republican because they bring something to the table. If Dems did, I'd honestly consider the things they say. For now, I can't get around the cognitive dissonance of importing Muslims and claiming to support LGBT, being pro-African-American but doing everything you can to screw them and exterminate them (thanks Ms. Sanger), etc. Failure to mention radical islam, or the destruction of the family unit in the ghetto just cements the deal for me. I can't go with a party that doesn't make sense. I don't have to agree with everything someone says, but at this point they're nuts.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
cognitive dissonance of importing Muslims and claiming to support LGBT
How are these two even remotely comparable?

being pro-African-American but doing everything you can to screw them and exterminate them
I would love to see some conclusive evidence that supports your outrageous claim that the democratic party is set out to exterminate African Americans.

the destruction of the family unit in the ghetto just cements the deal for me
Source?
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
How are these two even remotely comparable?
I definitely agree with @Mindmaster on this point.
As a gay man who is really out, I don't like the fact that Muslim immigrants will tend to be more attached to homophobia than democracy or human rights. Just read the posts here on RF. And the RF Muslims aren't even a representative sample, they are the ones who are willing to post on an English speaking forum dominated by a liberal staff.
Tom
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Now that the facts are sitting on the page, how exactly does this become the fault of white people? Better yet, how does this become anyone's fault but their own for electing officials that do absolutely nothing to improve their lives? I live in a congressional district that hasn't seen a Republican in 50 years, and for 50 years the poor in the region have got the shaft regardless of the color. Half of those Democrats are rotting in jail at the moment, but yea let's vote for them again. If you don't like what you got, you have to do something different. The real war is rich vs poor, and globalists vs Americanism, you have to stop voting on silly criteria like color.
Wow. I never wanted to blame 'White people' nor have I. I think being white is great as long as I wear sunscreen. Its perfectly normal.
The last comment is not really true, the first slaves here were indentured servants and nearly all of them were white. Slavery was the way for poor people of all colors to get here. The real divide is poor vs rich rather than color. Slavery for non-blacks ended sooner, that is all, but at that point getting here via boat wasn't that expensive for most people from Europe. It was more an economical thing than anything... Most of the black slaves were sold from black people to white people, and they have as much responsibility for the situation as anyone else. Slavery also was never really popular, with about 25% of households owning a slaves in the South. Many of those households were owned by black freed-men who continued doing the plantation work that they did as slaves since it was the trade they knew how to do. Thus, I chock most of the slavery narrative as poor education. They don't know how it was, but they watched Roots (complete fictional crap).
It is not "More economical than anything" or about casting blame. Oh, boy, did I ever not cast blame on whites, being white myself. I know very well that I never enslaved anybody, so don't project that onto me. Its not really an economic gap that I'm talking about, although there are economic gaps in the USA. I don't deny that there are.

Slaves were specifically brainwashed to believe they were incompetent and morally dependent upon their masters. This was reinforced through separation of children from parents, beatings and perverse religion. Eventually the southern USA developed thoroughbred slaves who were slaves both in body and mind and who beat their own children just as their masters beat them. This was on purpose to maintain the population of slaves as slaves. This is fact, history not guessing. As a result slaves inherited a culture and education that was at odds with their new found freedom. Its not surprising that it is taking time and generations for their descendants to relearn and recover. This is not something we can go back in time and fix, but he who does nothing is the brother of destruction.

Reiterating....what is something we can do, now, today to re-connect blacks and whites?
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Find out who put the gap in there in the first place. Government officials love to divide and conquer. Anyone notice they've been doing that? Whites and blacks, muslims and non muslims ect.

Have whites, blacks, and really any race, come out and point out how stupid this black lives matter group is, or any other supremacist groups like KKK, neo nazi's ect.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I definitely agree with @Mindmaster on this point.
As a gay man who is really out, I don't like the fact that Muslim immigrants will tend to be more attached to homophobia than democracy or human rights. Just read the posts here on RF. And the RF Muslims aren't even a representative sample, they are the ones who are willing to post on an English speaking forum dominated by a liberal staff.
Tom
That's fair, I am curious if @Mindmaster will engage my concerns. His lack of direct engagement (after requesting it) is as disappointing as it is predictable.
 

MD

qualiaphile
I am not sure if ethnogenesis will help too much. There are many biracial and multiracial people who identify as black, and want to stick it to whitey. Jesse Williams for example. Also any move to blend African Americans will bring a huge backlash from the Left. Most 1/4 or 1/8 blacks look white (Stephen Graham, Wentworth Miller, etc), and so Leftists will say this is a form of eugenics. Black academics like Thomas Sowell are seen as pariahs, while he provides some of the best options for growth. Handouts weaken people, communities and nations if they become a crutch rather than a temporary (very temporary) measure.

There needs to be a complete rejection and destruction of the new Left. The old Left did some great things, like ensuring gays have full rights, and expanding some needed social programs. The new Left has become very anti White and very anti West, and it stokes a lot of tension. It glorifies weakness and victim hood. It creates phenomenal divisions. Diversity to some degree is strength, diversity in extreme leads to division. The liberal media continuously attacks Whites, and tries to enrage minorities to attack Whites. It blames everything on White people. 'Social science academia' started this whole movement a long time ago. It denies common sense. If you read everything from Pew studies to newspaper articles, they have an anti White slant. When you have big headlines saying, 'White minority soon!', it's a lie because if you include White Hispanics America will be more than 75% white even in 2060. But this is one way you can turn minorities on each other. Not to mention the fact that the Left basically bows to Islamism.

When you have intelligent young people going to college demanding safe spaces, arguing over debunked 3rd wave feminist theories and the fact that Whites are an evil race, you have a problem. When you have a culture which hates the family unit and legalizes massive infanticide, you have a problem. But worst of all when you have a movement which demonizes values of hard work, sacrifice, honor and loyalty, you have a massive problem. A civilization will not survive with the loss of such values.

America needs to move towards the Right. A new Right. The old Right is a joke, with religious buffoons and ignorant racists. People like Trump should not be running for President. Wall Street is also a huge threat to the American people as it basically places the values of the elites before the common man.

The new Right would be a blend of nationalism and ethnogenesis, and a return to American exceptionalism. Ethnogenesis and nationalism build on each other, as the latter is an extension of tribalism. And tribalism is partly genetic.

America needs to return to aggressively continue pursuing engineering and science as it has historically. More NASA less BLM. We could have been on Mars building bases were it not for the fact that the Left has severely weakened America. We have the technical know how, but the political will is not there.

America needs to go back to its roots, of pioneering and exploration. Of work ethic and the will to win. Of being the best of the best, no matter. A mixed populace with these values, could conquer the universe.

China is pursuing genetic engineering full steam and securing African investments. Islam is the largest religion (and socio-political movement) in the world for all intents and purposes and will grow. Russia is still a major player. The Left ignores that there are cultures which want to destroy the West, and will be willing do so to win. The winners in the global race for dominance are not going to be the most politically correct, but the hungriest and most willing to sacrifice for the cause. The politically correct will be the first to be eaten alive. They are one of the biggest enemies of America and the West in general.

Oh and I'm brown so to all those who will say I'm some white supremacist, can kiss my ***. Win or die, that's the rule of nature.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
@Brickjectivity

Why in the world did you think this thread was a good idea? There's barely any black people on this site to begin with. You're basically going to get a bunch of white guy's opinions, and that's what happened.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
@Brickjectivity

Why in the world did you think this thread was a good idea? There's barely any black people on this site to begin with. You're basically going to get a bunch of white guy's opinions, and that's what happened.
I didn't know that would happen, and I'm not on a lot of forums at least not serious ones where anybody discusses important things.
 

Wirey

Fartist
What can white people and black people do to bridge the gap between their cultures? My idea: I suggest learning to communicate with each other in a second language such as Spanish instead of English. What are some other ideas?

Let the blacks own the whites as slaves and then abrogate their rights for 100 years. That'll even up the score.
 
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