Prayer for Israel

[Living4Eden]

So Daniel prayed it..and that was back then, but anyone who knows scripture knows the holy spirit speaks through prophets for all ages.. so this prayer can be most def said today for todays era.



Daniel 9:3-19


So I turned to the Lord God and pleaded with him in prayer and petition, in fasting, and in sackcloth and ashes.

4 I prayed to the Lord my God and confessed:

“Lord, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love with those who love him and keep his commandments, 5 we have sinned and done wrong. We have been wicked and have rebelled; we have turned away from your commands and laws. 6 We have not listened to your servants the prophets, who spoke in your name to our kings, our princes and our ancestors, and to all the people of the land.

7 “Lord, you are righteous, but this day we are covered with shame—the people of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem and all Israel, both near and far, in all the countries where you have scattered us because of our unfaithfulness to you. 8 We and our kings, our princes and our ancestors are covered with shame, Lord, because we have sinned against you. 9 The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him; 10 we have not obeyed the Lord our God or kept the laws he gave us through his servants the prophets. 11 All Israel has transgressed your law and turned away, refusing to obey you.

 

[Living4Eden]

and people tell me I'm not a jew. but seriously now I'm leaving. this website is like crack.

be back at night time!

 

[Matemkar]

May curse of God be upon Israel, which, in biblical terms, has always played the harlot. Amen.

 

[metis]

May curse of God be upon Israel, which, in biblical terms, has always played the harlot. Amen.

Oh yes, just curse other people and groups-- I'm sure Allah thinks you're being so "righteous".

 

[Matemkar]

I don't cure them for being the others. I curse them (zionists) because of their rebellion against God and their crimes against humanity. Though, yes, cursing is not considered a deed in Islam. But it is a natural result of disassociation from evil-doers and their acts. And I disassociate from them.

 

[ametist]

dear living4eden, i know about your health situation only as much as you have told us. i honestly care more about you than israel or any other country or abstract entity because it is obvious i cant do anything about an abstract entity that is really not within my reach.
my humble opinion is if you wont follow the medical routine that is decided for you, a forum on religion or spirituality may hinder your case more. activities that will make you use your body and mind at the same time are good...like cooking, drawing, gardenning, cycling.. but "only mind" activities that require deep philosophical thinking are not that good. it is not even good for people not needing any medical treatment routine to spend too much time in deep philosophical and theological matters. i really and humbly have to ask you to consult to your advisors about that you are spending time here.

 

[metis]

I don't cure them for being the others. I curse them (zionists) because of their rebellion against God and their crimes against humanity. Though, yes, cursing is not considered a deed in Islam. But it is a natural result of disassociation from evil-doers and their acts. And I disassociate from them.

So, you believe that stereotyping a people and then cursing them is somehow moral? Didn't anyone ever teach you that stereotyping an entire group and then condemning them is morally reprehensible?

 

[Matemkar]

Yes, it is moral. In the end, I am not stereotyping a religion or its subscribers (Judaism and Jews), I am talking about Zionism and its followers (which includes "Jewish", "Christian", "Muslim", etc. Zionists). And I don't see any wrong in condemning a political movement which is based upon stealing the lands of people, masacring and displacing them. In fact, not doing it (disassociation from them) is problematic.

 

[sojourner]

Yes, it is moral. In the end, I am not stereotyping a religion or its subscribers (Judaism and Jews), I am talking about Zionism and its followers (which includes "Jewish", "Christian", "Muslim", etc. Zionists). And I don't see any wrong in condemning a political movement which is based upon stealing the lands of people, masacring and displacing them. In fact, not doing it (disassociation from them) is problematic.

Hmmm... but stealing airplanes and flying them into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people wasn't a "political movement?" I think someone needs to check out the log in their own eye before they begin to whine about the speck in someone else's...

 

[CMike]

Genesis 12

3. And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you."

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Who or what are you defining as Israel, OP? According to Christianity, Israel is the Church.

 

[sojourner]

Who or what are you defining as Israel, OP? According to Christianity, Israel is the Church.

he kinda seems to be all over the place -- calling for the "real' Jews; slappin' Levite around... Kind of sounds like he means JfJ...

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

he kinda seems to be all over the place -- calling for the "real' Jews; slappin' Levite around... Kind of sounds like he means JfJ...

He seems like Messianic Jew, which is fine, but his rhetoric isn't helping matters.

 

[Matemkar]

Hmmm... but stealing airplanes and flying them into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people wasn't a "political movement?" I think someone needs to check out the log in their own eye before they begin to whine about the speck in someone else's...

Yes, it was. And why do you think I don't condemn them as well? I and other Muslim brethren condemn these political movements such as al-Qaeda, ISIL, Boko Haram, etc. more than anyone do.

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So, I differentiate the movements which do not represent these faiths and those which do. And Just as Al-Qaeda doesn't represent Islam, Zionism doesn't represent Judaism either. And again, curse be upon these criminals.

 

[jewscout]

I feel like this thread would have been better suited NOT in a debate forum

just sayin...

 

[sojourner]

Yes, it was. And why do you think I don't condemn them as well? I and other Muslim brethren condemn these political movements such as al-Qaeda, ISIL, Boko Haram, etc. more than anyone do.

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So, I differentiate the movements which do not represent these faiths and those which do. And Just as Al-Qaeda doesn't represent Islam, Zionism doesn't represent Judaism either. And again, curse be upon these criminals.

Just as I, as a Christian, have nothing to do with Zionism, you, as a Muslim, have nothing to do with terrorism. Perhaps better that we're a little more careful with the curse-slinging, yes?

 

[Matemkar]

I know that. But sometimes it is necessary we make our stand against these criminal people. As in disassociation from the enemies of God, religions and nations. But, as you say, I will refrain from that.

 

[sojourner]

I know that. But sometimes it is necessary we make our stand against these criminal people. As in disassociation from the enemies of God, religions and nations. But, as you say, I will refrain from that.

I agree.

 

[Living4Eden]

Who or what are you defining as Israel, OP? According to Christianity, Israel is the Church.

In my book Israel is the country.. spiritual israel is different, but that prayer by daniel is for physical israel and the people of G-d

 

[InChrist]

Who or what are you defining as Israel, OP? According to Christianity, Israel is the Church.

I think rather than Christianity, it is more accurate to say according to the Catholic Church, reformed churches, and other Israel replacement denominations "Israel is the church". But I believe the scriptures always defines Israel as Israel.