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Predictions for the 2016 Election

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Wrong question.
I don't say chances are equal.
Only that I cannot make a prediction.
If you don't believe their chances of winning are equal, then you should be able to predict who you believe is the likelier to win.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I don't address their chances at all.
Why not? The purpose of the thread is for people to make their predictions. Correct and incorrect predictions will presumably demonstrate people's insight and ability to assess the evidence.

What is it about the poll that you linked to that makes it "impossible" for you for make a prediction?

Why don't you try answering the other question I asked you: Is it plausible that Trump is going to win all of these states: NC, GA, FL, OH, WI, IA, NV, AZ, UT, NH?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Because I find it too difficult to predict.
The purpose of the thread is for people to make their predictions.
And I made mine.
Did you read it?
Correct and incorrect predictions will presumably demonstrate people's insight and ability to assess the evidence.
I claim a lack of insight into winner prediction.
What is it about the poll that you linked to that makes it "impossible" for you for make a prediction?
Wild fluctuations depending upon date & source.
Why don't you try answering the other question I asked you: Is it plausible that Trump is going to win all of these states: NC, GA, FL, OH, WI, IA, NV, AZ, UT, NH?
I answered the questions which interested me.
Don't you have enuf to object to already...why want more?
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I give Hillary 60% chance to win.....+/-40%
So, in other words, you lack any insight or foresight on the question. That only makes me continue to wonder why you wish to post here.

You never explained what it is about the poll you linked to above that makes it impossible for you to formulate a prediction.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So, in other words, you lack any insight or foresight on the question.
Oh, I understand the question.
I just don't have a precise answer.
That only makes me continue to wonder why you wish to post here.
I wonder why you post to me so much.
It doesn't seem that I'm worth your time.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Oh, I understand the question.
I just don't have a precise answer.
Evidently you don't the insight or foresight on the question to formulate even an imprecise prediction.

[/quote]I wonder why you post to me so much.
It doesn't seem that I'm worth your time.[/QUOTE]I like exposing inanity.

You never explained what it is about the poll you linked to above that makes it impossible for you to formulate a prediction.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
If your bank accounts, wallets, and purses haven't already been gouged....load up on and invest in all of the stocks of companies that have contributed to the Clinton Foundation and/or Hillary's campaign!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why not? The purpose of the thread is for people to make their predictions. Correct and incorrect predictions will presumably demonstrate people's insight and ability to assess the evidence.

What is it about the poll that you linked to that makes it "impossible" for you for make a prediction?

Why don't you try answering the other question I asked you: Is it plausible that Trump is going to win all of these states: NC, GA, FL, OH, WI, IA, NV, AZ, UT, NH?
Looking at the election results.....
Clinton barely winning the popular vote.
Trump winning the electoral college vote.
....perhaps you can now better understand my difficulty in predicting a winner.
The lead shifted back & forth a great deal during the campaign.
It was just impossible to say who would win.
 
It was just impossible to say who would win.

That's because you didn't have the insight or the foresight to have blind faith in the polls being accurate just because there were lots of them and people talked about them a lot and some people even made graphs with percentages on them.

'Scientific' evidence clearly shows the polls were indeed accurate; it's just that millions of people voted wrongly. It would be irrational to believe otherwise in the face of such overwhelming evidence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's because you didn't have the insight or the foresight to have blind faith in the polls being accurate just because there were lots of them and people talked about them a lot and some people even made graphs with percentages on them.

'Scientific' evidence clearly shows the polls were indeed accurate; it's just that millions of people voted wrongly. It would be irrational to believe otherwise in the face of such overwhelming evidence.
Insight....foresight....faith....social skills....hygiene....I'm challenged in many areas.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Donald Trump will win this presidential election in an upset just as Ronald Reagan did in 1980 c.e., and the "Brexit" movement this year in the UK. Just like with all things in the cosmic order, the political world is cyclical.

The polls were wrong, the analysts were wrong, the establishment media was wrong. The disruptor of the political establishment broke through and Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States. I told you folks about a month ago in the above quote that this would come to be. ;)
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Looking at the election results.....
Clinton barely winning the popular vote.
Trump winning the electoral college vote.
....perhaps you can now better understand my difficulty in predicting a winner.
Yes, this was a rather unusual election in that way--where one candidate wins the popular vote and another wins the electoral vote (assuming that Trump will win the electoral vote).

It was also apparently an unusual election in that a variety of pre-election polls of likely voters consistently, even when using different methodology, showed Clinton to be the favored candidate.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's because you didn't have the insight or the foresight to have blind faith in the polls being accurate just because there were lots of them and people talked about them a lot and some people even made graphs with percentages on them.

'Scientific' evidence clearly shows the polls were indeed accurate; it's just that millions of people voted wrongly. It would be irrational to believe otherwise in the face of such overwhelming evidence.

From what evidence was your statement here (with which I agreed) derived:

A trend across multiple polls, even within the margin of error, could make one the favourite.

She'll probably win
?
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Donald Trump will win this presidential election in an upsetting landslide just as Ronald Reagan did in 1980 c.e., and the "Brixit" movement this year in the UK. Just like with all things in the cosmic order, the political world is cyclical.

The polls were wrong, the analysts were wrong, the establishment media was wrong. The disruptor of the political establishment broke through and Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States. I told you folks about a month ago in the above quote that this would come to be. ;)
Yours was an excellent guess on the outcome of the election.

What is the cycle that you referred to?
 
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