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President's Remarks at Prayer Breakfast

sooda

Veteran Member
Oh, come on. He's been attacked by the left for his entire life. The names he has been called are legion...the only thing he's done now is see that the right is joining the attack squad.

NOBODY is going to support him.

Period.

And that includes, sadly enough, me. I don't trust his politics. I admire his character, but....I don't agree with his politics.

Romney and Comey are respected..
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Utah GOP is trying to get legislation passed for a recall of Mittens
No state can "recall" a sitting senator as that would take impeachment. What they could do is to purge him out of the Republican Party, ala Soviet style.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Dorian Gray syndrome (DGS) denotes a cultural and societal phenomenon characterized by a man's extreme pride in his personal appearance and the fitness of his physique, which is accompanied by difficulties in coping with the requirements of psychological maturation and with the aging of his body.

The DGS is characterized by a triad of symptoms that overlap, and so combine diagnostic signs of dysmorphophobia, narcissistic character traits, and the immaturity of arrested development, which often are found in paraphilias.

To preserve ephemeral youth, the man afflicted with DGS tends to consume cosmetic products and services, hair-restoration procedures, anti-impotence drugs, and cosmetic surgery; hence, he might resist the psychosomatic and psychodynamic explanations of the syndrome.

The term "Dorian Gray syndrome" refers to the protagonist of the novel The Picture of Dorian Gray (1891), an exceptionally handsome man whose hedonism and excessive self-love proved detrimental to the personal, social, and emotional aspects of his life, and who sought to escape the ravages of time and his own decadent lifestyle by having a supernatural portrait of himself age in his place.

What would what would happen if Donald Trump saw himself as other see him? I think very much like what happened when Dorian Gray saw his portrait at the end of the story.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
No state can "recall" a sitting senator as that would take impeachment. What they could do is to purge him out of the Republican Party, ala Soviet style.

Anyone who don't follow lock-step with the GOP's desire for unmitigated power is an enemy. Worship the flag, but hold disdain for the values it stands for.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Anyone who don't follow lock-step with the GOP's desire for unmitigated power is an enemy. Worship the flag, but hold disdain for the values it stands for.
And it is possible, and some think likely, that if Trump were to lose the upcoming election that he would likely not step down as Michael Cohen warned Congress about.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
And it is possible, and some think likely, that if Trump were to lose the upcoming election that he would likely not step down as Michael Cohen warned Congress about.

I wonder how many of his supporters would deny and denounce a fair, legitimate defeat. Part of me wants to see how this civil war they've threatened the rest of us with would unfold.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And it is possible, and some think likely, that if Trump were to lose the upcoming election that he would likely not step down as Michael Cohen warned Congress about.
I wonder how many of his supporters would deny and denounce a fair, legitimate defeat. Part of me wants to see how this civil war they've threatened the rest of us with would unfold.
You guys sure are whipping yourselves up into a frenzy
over these outrageous sky-is-falling scenarios. A fundie
friend did the same...fearing that Obama would refuse to
leave office in 2016, & become dictator.
I recommend being concerned with what is likely...not with
fantasies. It would be better for one's mental health.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I wonder how many of his supporters would deny and denounce a fair, legitimate defeat. Part of me wants to see how this civil war they've threatened the rest of us with would unfold.
I saw the results of a poll a few months ago that had it that roughly 40% of people who refer to themselves as "Republicans" have more admiration for Trump than the Constitution. Because the long-term demographics work against the Pubs, it wouldn't surprise me if the congressional ones wouldn't back Trump on him not leaving.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You guys sure are whipping yourselves up into a frenzy
over these outrageous sky-is-falling scenarios. A fundie
friend did the same...fearing that Obama would refuse to
leave office in 2016, & become dictator.
I recommend being concerned with what is likely...not with
fantasies. It would be better for one's mental health.

Now where did I say I believed or feared that Trump would refuse to leave office and become dictator? :rolleyes: He *might* try to deny/defy it, but they'd drag him kicking and screaming out of there. Perhaps a rise of domestic terrorism from yeehawdists.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I saw the results of a poll a few months ago that had it that roughly 40% of people who refer to themselves as "Republicans" have more admiration for Trump than the Constitution. Because the long-term demographics work against the Pubs, it wouldn't surprise me if the congressional ones wouldn't back Trump on him not leaving.
Even without Trump, The GOP has long been an evangelical hive whose agenda directly conflicts with the constitution.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Even without Trump, The GOP has long been an evangelical hive whose agenda directly conflicts with the constitution.
Yep. It used to be a respectable party that my parents, my sister, and I used to belong to, but it has disgraced itself on numerous fronts, primarily starting with racism. And it's this latter point whereas I left it in the 1960's.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Even without Trump, The GOP has long been an evangelical hive whose agenda directly conflicts with the constitution.
I posted to 2 of you.
Your post....
Part of me wants to see how this civil war they've threatened the rest of us with would unfold.
.....sure seemed of the sky-is-falling type.
You have my personal money backed guarantee there'll be no civil war.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
You didn't capitalize Devil and in that religion it seems God is the one that tends to send him in to do his dirty work and then use him as a scapegoat so in a way one could say Trump IS doing God's work.
To invoke Godwin, Hitler was doing God's work as well from that perspective.

At a time when lower human emotions and actions are in evidence in many countries, locusts are swarming in Africa, Australia has been on fire, China has an epidemic that threatens to turn into a pandemic and more besides, my view of God's work is far beyond the actions of one individual and gets into the end of the current creation and the birth of a new one. But that's for another thread at another time.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
No state can "recall" a sitting senator as that would take impeachment. What they could do is to purge him out of the Republican Party, ala Soviet style.
The trump party does more and more resemble a communist political party where disagreeing with the leader will result in a purge at the very least.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The trump party does more and more resemble a communist political party where disagreeing with the leader will result in a purge at the very least.
Really wanna see some resemblance? View some recordings of Mussolini, especially when he was giving speeches. The smugness and utter arrogance with his words and general posture is striking, as well as his pandering to the religious right by claiming to be the protector of the faith.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I posted to 2 of you.
Your post....

.....sure seemed of the sky-is-falling type.
You have my personal money backed guarantee there'll be no civil war.

Of course there will be no civil war. My comment was clearly tongue-in-cheek. The idea of drunken, shotgun toting Trump supporters mobilizing in the streets after a failed re-election is a comical one.
 
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