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Priest who supports gay marriage will not submit

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Jose Nicolas Alessio, a priest of the diocese of Cordoba in Argentina who was suspended for supporting gay marriage, says he will continue to celebrate Mass and will not submit to a canonical trial. Alessio criticizes the increasing authoritarianism of the Catholic Church and says his commitment is to the community and not to the hierarchy. He also notes that his support for gay marriage is a political opinion and that he is not denying any dogma of the Church.

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Mister Emu

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He also notes that his support for gay marriage is a political opinion and that he is not denying any dogma of the Church.
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I'll assume that means he is not for sacramental homosexual marriage?
 
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There's been a lot of discussion here lately about whether Islam can be reconciled to a secular society. A more important concern for us in the West might be whether the Roman Catholic and LDS churches can be reconciled to a secular society.
 
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I've been watching all day to see what the Argentine Senate will do, since it had been said they'd vote on marriage equality today. They didn't start debating until 1:15, and they're still at it. It now appears that they probably won't vote till tomorrow.
 
LuisDantas

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Same here. The RCC still should change its stance on the matter, but that is not his prerrogative, but instead the Pope's.
 
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That's correct. He supports marriage equality for civil purposes; he doesn't support same-sex marriage in the church.
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While I am glad that he supports it in civil cases, he should also support it in the church. To do otherwise is to display an unacceptable mental reservation about the validity of other individual's lifestyles, which can only lead to bigotry.

To say that gay marriage should be allowed "in society" but that Catholics shouldn't have to accept it also implies that Catholics are somehow special, and that they are above the law. All Christian, denominations, in fact, should be tolerant of LGBTQI individuals in all cases.
 
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JewishLeftist said:
While I am glad that he supports it in civil cases, he should also support it in the church. To do otherwise is to display an unacceptable mental reservation about the validity of other individual's lifestyles, which can only lead to bigotry.

To say that gay marriage should be allowed "in society" but that Catholics shouldn't have to accept it also implies that Catholics are somehow special, and that they are above the law. All Christian, denominations, in fact, should be tolerant of LGBTQI individuals in all cases.
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I agree, but it takes courage for a Catholic priest to take the stand he has. He'll probably be defrocked before it's all over. At least he supports religious freedom, which is a lesson the Pope could stand to learn.
 
LuisDantas

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By all means, he should support religious marriage for LGBTQI (not sure what the QI means, but whatever). But he can't reasonably expect to remain a part of the very church whose sole leader he would then be directly challenging.

For that matter, "street level" Catholics should defy the Pope as well. And do so knowing full well that it sort of implies no longer being Catholics, at least under this Pope. I see nothing wrong and much commendable with such a choice, but I certainly don't expect it to be widespread.
 
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Storm said:
Queer or Questioning, depending on who you ask. :)
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And "I" is Intersex.

Sometimes you see other letters, too. Inclusiveness is a struggle in our community as it is in the wider community, but many of us, at least, try to advocate equality for everybody who is marginalized for not being cisgendered and heterosexual.
 
Joe_Stocks

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Hi Luis,

Same here. The RCC still should change its stance on the matter, but that is not his prerrogative, but instead the Pope's.
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Why should the RCC change its teaching regarding homosexuality? Because it doesn't bend with the winds of the world and accept the latest political chic trend and support gay 'rights.'
 
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Joe Stocks said:
Why should the RCC change its teaching regarding homosexuality? Because it doesn't bend with the winds of the world and accept the latest political chic trend and support gay 'rights.'
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The Catholic Church should change its teaching because its teaching is wrong. But the Church seems to learn nothing from its past errors.
 
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