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Pro abortion vs Pro choice?

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I don't really understand why pro-abortion is unreasonable? Abortion is a necessary defence against patriarchy in my opinion.
However maybe terminology is not as important as actually addressing the stigma that many pro choicers contribute to.
There have been cases in history - and there are places today - where women have been coerced or even physically forced into abortion. The reasons why I'm opposed to forced pregnancy apply just as strongly to forced abortion. "Pro-choice" reflects this; "pro-abortion" does not.

There are other important differences, too.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
I personally think abortion rights should also be presented in sex education classes. I was only presented with abortion in a religious education class and shown an anti-abortion video with no accurate medical information about abortion or even UK law.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I've recently decided to refer to myself as pro-abortion instead of pro choice and that is because I believe females even in the West are still being socialised into motherhood from a very young age and made to feel guilty for not having some level of "motherly love" or an instant bond with the embryo or foetus.

"Pro-abortion" could give the impression that it's your favoured method of birth-control.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
There have been cases in history - and there are places today - where women have been coerced or even physically forced into abortion. The reasons why I'm opposed to forced pregnancy apply just as strongly to forced abortion. "Pro-choice" reflects this; "pro-abortion" does not.

There are other important differences, too.

This is a good point.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
It means both that you identify as a feminist and that you support feminist positions.

Suppose that you post and someone questions that your opinion belongs in a dir (by reporting your post) but you think you do belong in that dir -- then it becomes a judgement call for staff. As long as no one reports the post we do not have to mess with it though. The idea is not to shut down all conversation but to facilitate it. Directories let people in groups talk without getting peppered with random conversations, derailed, accused etc. Decisions that are made about who belongs in a dir are in the interest of providing that kind of space and are made with the best guess of several staff members. We try not to be the last word on things, but sometimes we are.

This is true regardless of the politics DIR forums or the religion DIR forums.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I do think though, that more women would probably seriously consider their abortion rights if there wasn't social stigma around abortions and I think that is a good thing.

Maybe. I guess I've never really been one to care about social stigmas, so I have more trouble understanding when others become governed by them. :D
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
I am pro-sex education and pro-contraception. Nobody should be pressured into becoming a parent when they don't want to be, but saying you're "pro-abortion" sort of sounds (to me) like abortion is the solution to keep young people from becoming parents before they are ready to be. I think preventing pregnancy all together is a much better alternative than using abortion as birth control. I think abortion should only be a last resort.

I am reluctant to call myself pro-choice or pro-life though, as my feelings lie somewhere in the middle. While I do not think I could feel good about myself having an abortion, I do believe others should have the option to choose, to an extent. It's the late-term abortions that really make me feel nauseous. Why wait until you're five months pregnant to have an abortion? It just seems unnecessarily cruel to wait until the baby is viable.

My sister says she supports abortion at any stage, but doesn't support murdering the baby during a late-term abortion. She thinks a woman shouldn't have to be pregnant if she doesn't want to be, but that any aborted babies who survive should be cared for, since they are most certainly baby human beings, even if their mothers didn't want them. I might be able to get on board with that. But that wouldn't keep me from feeling that a woman who purposefully has her baby three or four months early with no medical reason is kind of selfish. If she's got to give birth to it anyway, why not just stay pregnant a few more months so that the baby won't have so many health problems?

Anyway... I think I kind of get what you are saying - You don't think people should feel bad about having abortions because it causes people who don't really want a baby to keep it... But I'm not sure if I can ever think of the word "abortion" and think, "awesome! Everyone should do it all the time," as I think that could potentially encourage people to be careless and see abortion as a quick fix to their irresponsibility. To anyone who is not a rape victim, abortion should come with the same degree of shame a sexually transmitted disease would. Going in for an abortion probably means you did something stupid. Even getting a tooth cavity filled in is shameful. It shows you were dumb enough to eat a bunch sugar that you knew would rot your teeth. Having to fix a dumb mistake shouldn't ever be something to be proud of.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
And I'm also pro contraception. However unwanted pregnancies will still occur -FACT! And I believe in abortion on demand up to a certain point. 24-26 weeks is reasonable to me with restrictions after that.
In my opinion abortions are in fact awesome because it allows women the freedom to not be dependant on a man/ men for the rest of their life.
When I was with my controlling ex trust me if I ever got pregnant I would have had an abortion and felt complete relief at not being trapped.
 
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