Aristophanes' comedies are filled with that stuff....
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Pro-abortionists are going on a sex strike
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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I know, how odd. I mean so many women are enthusiastic about getting abortions, no wonder men are being raped so often by these enthusiastic women. Men can't imagine the thrill and fun of getting pregnant just to get an abortion, I mean, I don't get it. Women will be lined up trying to get in to clinic to get an abortion as if they are waiting to get into the coolest nightclub, because it is so enjoyable. How many clinics offer frequent shopper cards, probably all of them. Get 10 abortions and your next one is free.
It seems to me (I might be wrong) that you are describing women as if they had no sex drives. And as if they did a favor to men, when they have sex with them.
It's not like that. Women don't live their lives according to what men do or think.
So many women enjoy sex with men. And in order to have it, they will take contraceptives of any kind.
I have friends who have had so many boyfriends. They never got pregnant, because they used the pill.
For the records: a woman who has been taking the hormonal pill (etinilestradiol plus drospirenone) 21 days a month, 12 months a year, for several years, will never get pregnant.
Because the ovaries will be addicted to these two artificial hormones which are a surrogate to the real hormones the female body produces, 17beta estradiol and progesterone.
So the ovaries will stop producing egg cells.
Because the ovaries will be addicted to these two artificial hormones which are a surrogate to the real hormones the female body produces, 17beta estradiol and progesterone.
So the ovaries will stop producing egg cells.
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Yes, I remember in my high school days (at a boys private boarding school) about the A_____ sisters who lived across the street and would do it with anyone. Odd thing is, I never heard a single person actually admit to having "took some comfort there" (Paul Simon), so there was a something of the element of myth to the story.
stvdv
Veteran Member
No, a real man would totally stand behind them. Even better, a real man would go on sex strike himself
Thereby forcing the government
, with this perfect solution (if all men join), to reverse their government's stupid new lawThey will always win, if all men join, because the government knows it has to reverse their "wrong" law
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Sounds like a win- win situation!
No, a real man would totally stand behind them. Even better, a real man would go on sex strike himself
Thereby forcing the government
They will always win, if all men join, because the government knows it has to reverse their "wrong" law
I think repression causes transgression.
In the US there is a culture that praises abstinence and chastity.
Here in Europe? Completely absent.
Here it is the parents that push their own teenage daughters to take the pill.
Not having a sex life, even for women is not seen something positive....as far as I can tell.
stvdv
Veteran Member
You seem to have missed my point
Explain it to me
stvdv
Veteran Member
Explain it to me
The strike is meant to change things.
This strike is most potent...imagine ZERO new American babies in let's say 1 year (if all would follow). Hence, the ancient well known (to you) trick "divide and conquer" all leaders use (in this case they have plenty religious people who join the government's new law, unaware they're being played by their government)
Big American disaster would follow, hence the government has to reverse their Law if all Americans would go on "sex strike"
This was not about "whether or not to abstain from sex is good or not"
Alien826
No religious beliefs
Seems to me that there are several different ways sex is valued (not sure that is the best word).
- Fun. To get people together to further the next two objectives.
- Reproduction. To produce a child.
- Pair bonding. To make it more likely that the male will stick around to help raise the child.
All of these are directly related to an evolutionary view of things.
It's not surprising though that the "fun" aspect has been seen as something that can be enjoyed without being stuck with the reproductive results, but only recently that it's been much easier to achieve, with modern contraceptives and of course safe abortion. The question arises as to why the "fun" aspect is so denigrated by some people. Why shouldn't two people simply enjoy an activity without having to add all the baggage of commitment and reproduction? Not to devalue those things of course, but there are lots of examples where we humans, who can make such choices, do separate the "fun" from the "need" without feeling guilty about it. We need food to live. Do we need the whole panoply of gourmet cooking though? We just enjoy the physical sensation of eating and indulge it (mostly) without shame.
- Fun. To get people together to further the next two objectives.
- Reproduction. To produce a child.
- Pair bonding. To make it more likely that the male will stick around to help raise the child.
All of these are directly related to an evolutionary view of things.
It's not surprising though that the "fun" aspect has been seen as something that can be enjoyed without being stuck with the reproductive results, but only recently that it's been much easier to achieve, with modern contraceptives and of course safe abortion. The question arises as to why the "fun" aspect is so denigrated by some people. Why shouldn't two people simply enjoy an activity without having to add all the baggage of commitment and reproduction? Not to devalue those things of course, but there are lots of examples where we humans, who can make such choices, do separate the "fun" from the "need" without feeling guilty about it. We need food to live. Do we need the whole panoply of gourmet cooking though? We just enjoy the physical sensation of eating and indulge it (mostly) without shame.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I think the actual result of liberal women going on a sex strike, assuming it actually lasts, would be less liberal women.
So I'm all for it. Meanwhile, the married Mennonites, Amish and Southern Baptist are still breeding like rabbits and will no doubt take over the world.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Great video
Good strong and clear message
Sex, just for fun, has nothing to do with Love
Alien826
No religious beliefs
The strike is meant to change things.
This strike is most potent...imagine ZERO new American babies in let's say 1 year (if all would follow). Hence, the ancient well known (to you) trick "divide and conquer" all leaders use (in this case they have plenty religious people who join the government's new law, unaware they're being played by their government)
Big American disaster would follow, hence the government has to reverse their Law if all Americans would go on "sex strike"
This was not about "whether or not to abstain from sex is good or not"
This plays into something I've been thinking about. Sex strikes are just one aspect of what we refer to as Civil Disobedience.
We don't want an out and out Civil War, but what to do if our democratic remedies fail us? How about if nobody (OK a lot of people) showed up at work every Friday until something was done? As Gandhi showed, you can't put everyone in prison.
I think it deals with an ideological conflict, then.
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Alien826
No religious beliefs
The impact is intended to be much more immediate than that. The idea is "If you (men) want sex from us (women) but won't let us fix it if something goes wrong, then no more sex for you! See how you like that!"
stvdv
Veteran Member
Nowadays people get too touchy about words. I am not. But words are important
Here the phrase "pro abortion" is perfect
Because
"Pro abortion" just means "pro abortion", as in not imposing "anti abortion on others".
Pro abortion is about giving others the freedom to decide for themselves. So, "Pro abortion" is a very positive stance, nothing wrong with it, except maybe in the eyes of religious fanatics who desire to impose their views on others
On the other hand
Anti-abortion usually implies to impose on others your will...taking away their free choice, this is a very unhealthy attitude
Avoiding the phrase "pro choice" means you are scared that abortion might be bad after all.
I have no such fear. There is nothing wrong with abortion from my POV, so I am totally fine with the way @Estro Felino wrote it
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Considering the women in question often look like men, we like it just fine!
stvdv
Veteran Member
I disagree how you phrase this
Sex strike I don't call Civil Disobedience at all, can't be further away. I only would have sex with someone when there is mutual respect, this has nothing to do with Civil Disobedience. And mutual respect is exactly what is lacking in those who are "anti abortion"...a law meant for all, which equals imposing on all, equals disrespecting others)
And "sex strike" is 100+ times more potent
Government would definitely lose their game if all joined this "sex strike".
"sex strike" is the panacea for any misbehavior of any government (until they found a way to create babies in a lab)