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Pro-Life = Pro-death

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
56% increase in the maternal mortality rate in Texas between 2019 and 2022

And now Texas won't even investigate the maternal deaths or review the cases from 2022 and 2023

Just sweep it under the rug. This is just disgraceful!
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member
"Leaving it to the states" is leaving people to die.
"Leaving it to the states" is messing with women
Smart move, as their intend is to pit people against each other; demonic tricks

For many years abortion was no problem
Suddenly, covid was used to change also this law

I know why, our P.M told us publicly:

"We are going to make you angry"
Well known strategy "Divide and conquer"

These rich who make these rules obey the dollar, they don't care about Love, Truth
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yes, it's what you believe. And as typical you offer no explanation or reasoning.

Could it be you have no thoughts beyond what you believe about such things? Maybe you are a blind follower of right wing issues?
Not hardly. Just not into wasting my time. explaining things to people who have already made up their minds. Maybe you are a blind follower of left wing issues.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The constitution doesn't recognize the unborn as citizens with rights. Rights begin at birth. This is why the Roe v Wade decision was made and stood for 50 years before right wing extremists were placed in the SCOTUS to overturn it.

This is why some red states have been trying to pass laws that declare personhood rights. This way any abortive action will be murder. This has extended to women who suffered a miscarriage as well.

So a baby in the womb one day, one hour even before birth, is not considered a human with no rights?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Not hardly. Just not into wasting my time. explaining things to people who have already made up their minds. Maybe you are a blind follower of left wing issues.
We're all begging you to elaborate on your comments and explain what you mean. You refuse at every turn. Then accuse us of being "blind followers," which appears to be projection on your part. Blind followers tend to be the ones who can't elucidate their beliefs beyond just a one-liner.
This forum is pretty full of people who embrace left wing ideology.
Which has nothing to do with my post you responded to.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The constitution doesn't recognize the unborn as citizens with rights. Rights begin at birth. This is why the Roe v Wade decision was made and stood for 50 years before right wing extremists were placed in the SCOTUS to overturn it.

This is why some red states have been trying to pass laws that declare personhood rights. This way any abortive action will be murder. This has extended to women who suffered a miscarriage as well.


But notice that they only want to grant fetuses recognition as persons in ways that would hurt pregnant people.

No "pro-life" people are fighting against deportation of undocumented pregnant people because of an "anchor fetus" or arguing that pregnant people on welfare should get paid as much as if they had an actual baby. They don't even try to argue that a fetus should count as a vehicle occupant for the HOV lane.

They only care about the rights of a fetus when they can use those rights as a weapon.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
So a baby in the womb one day, one hour even before birth, is not considered a human with no rights?

Let me put it this way: if your partner were pregnant and you wanted your child-to-be to be your life insurance beneficiary, you couldn't legally do this until the child is born. If you died an hour before your child was born, they would get nothing.

This is not an issue that "pro-life" people are trying to fix, since it isn't about being cruel to pregnant people.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
We're all begging you to elaborate on your comments and explain what you mean. You refuse at every turn. Then accuse us of being "blind followers," which appears to be projection on your part. Blind followers tend to be the ones who can't elucidate their beliefs beyond just a one-liner.
You know what I mean. Quit acting obtuse.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Actually it does.

You: "I think the laws are working, so there's that."

My response: "Why and how on earth do you think that?
I mean, this entire thread is about how they're not working."


Your response to that: "This forum is pretty full of people who embrace left wing ideology."

See how your response has nothing to do with my post or what we are talking about? It's just a non sequitur.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You: "I think the laws are working, so there's that."

My response: "Why and how on earth do you think that?
I mean, this entire thread is about how they're not working."


Your response to that: "This forum is pretty full of people who embrace left wing ideology."

See how your response has nothing to do with my post or what we are talking about? It's just a non sequitur.
Nope,. sorry, don't see how my response has nothing to do with your post or what we are talking about.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
I don't see how God cares, there doesn't seem to be anything there, for a lot of the duration, that is correspondent to consciousness. Some metabolism, sure, but as to consciousness.. it doesn't seem like it.

Basically what humans are, at best, is probably measured by their behavior and/or accomplishments. And their thoughts. Something with nothing but a bit of metabolism or potential, simply does not have that yet. It seems more like a thought that is yet to take on a concrete manifestation

But we all have to follow the law, and do what they say now.
 
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