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Professor Melissa Click should be fired

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Whatever. What do I know. I watched the whole video from the beginning. Obviously im an idiot. I guess the other side doesn't have rights though but again im just an idiot. Not like I wasn't trained by attorneys including a jag officer. Im just an idiot.
I don't understand why you have to be so unreasonable? I also watched the entire video, but with out jaundiced eyes. Both sides have the same rights. Why do you feel this should be different? There is no right to not be photographed in a public place. The right to be left alone has nothing to do with having your picture taken. The journalists were within their rights to video a public gathering in a public place. No one has the right to threaten them in order to get them to leave. Not even Ms Click. In addition, no one has the right to accost anyone with belligerent and/or racially laced hate speech.

Do you have a law degree then? If you work in a law office, run this by any attorney and perhaps they can clue you in to privacy law and journalistic freedoms.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
I don't understand why you have to be so unreasonable? I also watched the entire video, but with out jaundiced eyes. Both sides have the same rights. Why do you feel this should be different? There is no right to not be photographed in a public place. The right to be left alone has nothing to do with having your picture taken. The journalists were within their rights to video a public gathering in a public place. No one has the right to threaten them in order to get them to leave. Not even Ms Click. In addition, no one has the right to accost anyone with belligerent and/or racially laced hate speech.

Do you have a law degree then? If you work in a law office, run this by any attorney and perhaps they can clue you in to privacy law and journalistic freedoms.
Im a paralegal. You're talking about two different people. Im talking about the student journalist who was the asian guy. The guy with click wasn't a journalist. He wasn't with the media. He's a different person than the asian guy who was the student journalist and had the argument with the students. Im looking for a job now. My areas is bankruptcy though with my experience.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
I don't understand why you have to be so unreasonable? I also watched the entire video, but with out jaundiced eyes. Both sides have the same rights. Why do you feel this should be different? There is no right to not be photographed in a public place. The right to be left alone has nothing to do with having your picture taken. The journalists were within their rights to video a public gathering in a public place. No one has the right to threaten them in order to get them to leave. Not even Ms Click. In addition, no one has the right to accost anyone with belligerent and/or racially laced hate speech.

Do you have a law degree then? If you work in a law office, run this by any attorney and perhaps they can clue you in to privacy law and journalistic freedoms.
See we're having the same problem I did with someone else. We're talking about two different people. You're talking about the person filming. He wasn't with the media and was just documenting. I already agreed what happened with him was wrong and click should have been punished. Im talking about the student journalist who was the asian guy. He was the one who had the argument with the students about taking their picture and they were just asking him to step back and he didn't listen when they were doing their demonstration and moved a couple of feet and he got a little run over. So, I hope its clear we're talking about two different people...I don't think anything happened with the asian guy but that. But what do I know im just an idiot. An attorney has no bearing. An attorney is to protect the client. The students having their attorneys will do all they can to protect their rights. The only opinion that matters is the judge. But, again, im just an idiot.
 
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Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
It doesn't matter which person we are talking about: They both have the very same rights. Ms Click and company had no right to threaten either of them. They have the very same right to passage on a public venue as any protester. It doesn't matter how nicely or belligerently they were asked. Neither has to move just because they were asked. Neither Ms Click nor the protesters had the legal authority to require either gentleman to move. That you're a paralegal and cannot understand that ALL rights must be equally protected is rather disturbing. You're beginning to convince me about your last contention. Are you currently employed as a paralegal? I mean is this how you really make your living?
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
It appears that the "Concerned Students of 1950" group has realized that the First Amendment applies to more people than just those they agree with. They handed out these to their protesters after the videos of their group trashing the rights of two other students:
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They are calling it a "Teachable Moment". Think about that for a second. They consider an incident where they forcefully stripped the rights of two other students (and resulted in criminal actions) to be a "teachable moment". These are the people the social justice movement is praising left and right.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It appears that the "Concerned Students of 1950" group has realized that the First Amendment applies to more people than just those they agree with. They handed out these to their protesters after the videos of their group trashing the rights of two other students:
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They are calling it a "Teachable Moment". Think about that for a second. They consider an incident where they forcefully stripped the rights of two other students (and resulted in criminal actions) to be a "teachable moment". These are the people the social justice movement is praising left and right.
Disgusting!
"Media" is a plural word (of "medium"),
so the "media have" a 1st Amendment right....
And yes, capitalize that "A"!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Another one of those drive-by (my term) surveys was in the news.....
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/1...t-on-video-clamoring-to-kill-first-amendment/
Let's ignore the fact that the source is Fox, unless one has proof the story is fabricated.
Looking to understand just how controversial the debate over free speech on our college campuses really is, filmmaker and satirist Ami Horowitz recently traveled to Yale University, one of our nation’s most prestigious institutions of higher learning, to speak directly to students.
“I decided to take this campus free speech debate to its logical conclusion,” said Horowitz, who asked students if they’d sign a petition calling for an outright repeal of the First Amendment.
......
In fact, Horowitz discovered a solid majority of the students asked willingly signed the petition, with several expressing their enthusiastic approval for his anti-First Amendment efforts.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
Amazing. These people were so willing to petition away their own rights to petition.

The scary thing is they probably don't even know enough about the Constitution to realize that.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Amazing. These people were so willing to petition away their own rights to petition.
The scary thing is they probably don't even know enough about the Constitution to realize that.
It reminds me of a UofM student I knew a few years back.
He was majoring in political science.
I asked him if he had any opinion about the USSC justices & their philosophical orientation.
He said he didn't know that, but that he knew there were 11 of them.

People are very ready to give up their rights for one reason or another.
This seems especially true when they identify with the party of whoevrer is currently
president.....they trust government to do what is right with more authority over them.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
It reminds me of a UofM student I knew a few years back.
He was majoring in political science.
I asked him if he had any opinion about the USSC justices & their philosophical orientation.
He said he didn't know that, but that he knew there were 11 of them.

People are very ready to give up their rights for one reason or another.
This seems especially true when they identify with the party of whoevrer is currently
president.....they trust government to do what is right with more authority over them.

Maybe there are a couple spare ones we don't know about, just in case of emergency. :D

People don't seem to think there will always come a time when one's opposing party is in power, so best case scenario is not to support giving too much power, or in certain areas of one's life, to one's philosophical/political opponent, by supporting one's own party in over-stepping constitutional limitations.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Maybe there are a couple spare ones we don't know about, just in case of emergency. :D

People don't seem to think there will always come a time when one's opposing party is in power, so best case scenario is not to support giving too much power, or in certain areas of one's life, to one's philosophical/political opponent, by supporting one's own party in over-stepping constitutional limitations.
Those spare justices aren't real ones though.....they're lighter duty, & have less tread.
You can only use one for 50 miles to drive to Discount Justice for a new one.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Why are we surprised that a certain percentage of the student body are idiots? I would rank that right up there with 'pain hurts' in the obvious column.

A certain percentage of any group are idiots (students even more so). Just look at our politicians if you need proof of that. We have a brain surgeon who can't put two words together without getting something wrong running for president.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
If she could find a partner with the last name Point she could form her own media company and call it Point & Click....hahaha...I kill me.
 
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