Propaganda: Why it is necessary for Islam

[England my lionheart]

Even the modern countries of today could not deny the miraculous strength of islam. Why else would non-muslims begin to govern with laws not based on religion? Throughout history this was the procedure until recently. Why? Because even they realized the miracle of the qur'an. If they dared try to rule a country with a religion other than Allah's, it would fail.

Oh yes,the miracle of the Quran has surely been realised in Saudi,Pakistan,,the Taliban,Hezbollah,Hamas,Uzbekistan etc etc etc,where people have such freedom.
My country which is secular realised way back that religion,especially yours could'nt run a tap let alone a country,Yemen is an ideal example where people have an abundance of everything,especially BS,people have so much to look forward to.
It would be a good idea for you to wake up and observe reality,this is one of the most hilarious statements i've ever heard,what is a miracle is anyone believes it.

 

[England my lionheart]

even the modern countries of today could not deny the miraculous strength of islam. Why else would non-muslims begin to govern with laws not based on religion? Throughout history this was the procedure until recently. Why? Because even they realized the miracle of the qur'an. If they dared try to rule a country with a religion other than allah's, it would fail.

no propaganda required

 

[Gharib]

no propaganda required

couldn't you say that in the first post?

don't mind me though.

 

[Gharib]

what is a miracle is anyone believes it.

yep, that would be me.

 

[England my lionheart]

yep, that would be me.

But Eselam you must see why Islam gets so much criticism,in this Forum alone there have been some incredible claims by some Muslims with nothing to back them up.
Example,Scientific proof in the Quran,well i have seen this a few times but when it is pointed out that these scientific facts are vague at best the response is "well the Quran isn't a book on science" so why say it.
If you said to me,"EML,it is my belief that Islam is the one true religion " fine,theres nothing wrong with belief,however belief and facts are not the same as in "Islam is the one true religion" isn't a fact it is your belief which cannot be proved so by sticking your necks out with these bold claims you have to learn to take it on the chin.

 

[Fatihah]

Oh yes,the miracle of the Quran has surely been realised in Saudi,Pakistan,,the Taliban,Hezbollah,Hamas,Uzbekistan etc etc etc,where people have such freedom.
My country which is secular realised way back that religion,especially yours could'nt run a tap let alone a country,Yemen is an ideal example where people have an abundance of everything,especially BS,people have so much to look forward to.
It would be a good idea for you to wake up and observe reality,this is one of the most hilarious statements i've ever heard,what is a miracle is anyone believes it.

Response: The fact you couldn't refute a single word is evidence enough.n

 

[England my lionheart]

Even the modern countries of today could not deny the miraculous strength of islam. Why else would non-muslims begin to govern with laws not based on religion?

We grew up,we have learned to question,to evaluate evidence and religion being a matter of supposition isn't a reliable source of Government as can be seen in all the countries mentioned before.
PLease show me the miraculous strength of Islam and which version we are talking about as there appears to be so many,obviously your post is just a wind up.

Throughout history this was the procedure until recently. Why? Because even they realized the miracle of the qur'an. If they dared try to rule a country with a religion other than Allah's, it would fail.

But the UK and many other secular countries have'nt failed,why? because we shrugged off the shackles of Man made religion.

 

[ProudMuslim]

but you said god can do anything , if wanted to see what it was like to be a human nothing could stop him, but he would never be "just" human or comparable to human or equal to human he is god and if you say he can do anything ,well then he can do anything.

I dont think you grasped Islam's perception of God. God knows what it is like to be a human because He is all knowing. He is perfect in every possible way.

 

[Fatihah]

But the UK and many other secular countries have'nt failed,why? because we shrugged off the shackles of Man made religion.

Response: That couldn't be because they still are religious. It's not a country full of atheist.

 

[England my lionheart]

Response: That couldn't be because they still are religious. It's not a country full of atheist.

In Britain we have many religions but we are secular so that is of no consequence,to show this everyone gets to vote,everyone,irrespective of religious/non beliefs,Race,sexuality or Gender.
Now what have any Islamic state got to offer? i am interested to know.

 

[ProudMuslim]

ProudMuslim, this will probably come as a bit of a shock to you but I am only an atheist in the sense that I utterly and somewhat contemptuously reject all god-concepts currently available on this highly amusing, but very small planet. In your terms, it is not inaccurate to say I believe in "god", it's just that what I perceive is like nothing you are currently able to understand. If you could understand it, you would no longer be a Muslim. I just wanted to set the record straight for you.

Well Ymir if you beileve in God even if its not confined to any religious belief, you should not be called atheist. In fact in Islam, which might be a shock to you, the most important thing is to believe in God and the Last Day.

Anyway, instead of being condescending and presumptious, why not share your perception of God? I would love to hear it. Maybe i will understand it, understand one thing is different than agreeing with it.

And i promise i wont make fun

 

[Judgment]

I dont think you grasped Islam's perception of God. God knows what it is like to be a human because He is all knowing. He is perfect in every possible way.

Perfection is like a child playing and trying to grab a floating bubble - it can seem within your grasp - but then it pops and disappears as your hand arrives.

I expect more clarity of who is who within perfection.

4:119-120)
"I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires....." (says Satan)
"Satan make them promises and creates in them false hopes...." (vouched by Allah)

(16:93)
"If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people. But He leaves straying whom He pleases and He guides whom He pleases ...."

 

[England my lionheart]

Spot the Chicken,as i said previously,Islam provides it's own Propaganda

 

[Fatihah]

Spot the Chicken,as i said previously,Islam provides it's own Propaganda

Response: This coming from a person who just recently distorted a hadith in another thread.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Spot the Chicken,as i said previously,Islam provides it's own Propaganda

Irony is definitely not one of the Qur'an's teachings.

 

[eugenius]

Irony is definitely not one of the Qur'an's teachings.

I haven't seen any other religions tote such signs.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I haven't seen any other religions tote such signs.

I guess the other religions are more secure in their beliefs.

 

[Alla Prima]

Irony is definitely not one of the Qur'an's teachings.

Muslims are incapable of seeing fault in Islam. I believe it's forbidden to see fault.

 

[England my lionheart]

Response: This coming from a person who just recently distorted a hadith in another thread.

I did not distort it,both were the same

 

[England my lionheart]

Nice bunch of people