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Prophecy Unfolding

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If it was really for everyone, there would be accounts for all the countries. So I will ask again,
What are the prophecies for China? Where is the concern for all the Chinese people?
Where are the prophecies for Africa? For all the wars, and history of Africa, where is any of it in the Bible?
Where are the prophecies for South America? Again, for all the wars, famines etc. that have happened, where are they talked about in the Bible?
Where are the prophecies for India?
There are wars, famines, natural disasters all over the world - and somehow, Christians completely ignore all of it - only talk about the middle east, why is that? It is not a religion for the entire world, or helpful to the entire world, when all the wars, disasters, famines for everyone else are completely ignored and not talked about. It is racist, and ignorant of the history for the majority of the world's population.
Christians only seem to care about white history - what influences America/Canada, and the middle east - why is that?
Tell me about China, tell me about Africa, tell me about India, tell me about South America, talk about everyone equally and that would be something.
Do you think it Is possible that God created the heavens and the earth, but no earthling man can see Him as He really is in heaven?
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
The Bible is a narrative of human history and behavior.

Well much of it is unevidenced myth of course, and not historical fact.

God has given humanity much freedom and leeway.

I don't believe in any deity, nor is one required in order to explain human autonomy.

A lot of behaviors and practices took place which God allowed humans to be involved in, but which He did not condone.

The deity of the bible is depicted as favouring one tribe, and endorsing and encouraging their wars of ethnic cleansing, up to and including mass murder, and sex trafficking prisoners.

Slavery was a practice of humanity I am sure God does not endorse.

Except it is very specifically endorsed in the bible, in Exodus 21. For context Exodus 20 starts with " And God spake all these words, saying," So according to the bible, the deity of that bible fully and specifically endorsed slavery.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You wouldn’t know because you obviously haven’t read it. Daniel has the dream and then the interpretation, it’s easy to understand but if you can’t then maybe stop thinking of yourself as an ape or monkey.
The book is sealed in Daniel. The book is unsealed in revelation. Self is the book.

Matthew 6:23
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
My perspective is that the final world government and (Antichrist) leader will arise out of a united group or confederacy of countries which were once included or connected with the Roman Empire at the time of Christ.
You're projecting as if you believe you have no dark side.

Matthew 6:23

Christ doesn't exist in a certain timeline.. I am with you always. That is present tense

Matthew 28:20
 
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Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Racist??? I think the biblical position is that there is ONE human race created by God and everyone us of equal value. The scriptures don’t say a lot about other countries because God has had a certain purpose for Israel in His plan through history. It is not because others are ignored.
And yet Jesus and Christians are quick to claim some people are children of Satan, so clearly He only is our Father when He feels like it.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Christians care about all people, or should anyway if their lives are transformed by Christ. The scriptures are not focused on white people at all ... or America. Jesus was Middle Eastern Jewish, by the way, not white. Have you read the Bible? The scriptures don’t contain prophecies for every country because the focus is not this temporary earth or humanly created countries. They are concerned with one place- the new heaven and earth and spreading the message of eternal life to all people. This is a fallen, sinful world plagued with the things you’ve mentioned- famines, disasters, etc. God is calling anyone from anywhere to come to Him and receive an eternal destiny


“And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation”
Revelation 5:9
The Bible spends page after mind-numbing page listing laws for one particular kingdom.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Well much of it is unevidenced myth of course, and not historical fact.



I don't believe in any deity, nor is one required in order to explain human autonomy.



The deity of the bible is depicted as favouring one tribe, and endorsing and encouraging their wars of ethnic cleansing, up to and including mass murder, and sex trafficking prisoners.



Except it is very specifically endorsed in the bible, in Exodus 21. For context Exodus 20 starts with " And God spake all these words, saying," So according to the bible, the deity of that bible fully and specifically endorsed slavery.
Many would say that the Bible is a product of myth, etc. Reading the Bible, however, in 1 and 2 Kings shows things written that are very detailed about events. Of course, not everything can be written. Even in a movie the camera is focused on a particular area, it doesn't record everything that happens.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
That kingdom was given specific laws for a reason.
I was responding to the idea that the Bible is concerned with gentiles. Yahweh is assigned the Hebrews by the council of El. Jesus said he was only here for Jews. I understand that they considered their laws important, but does tax code deserve to be scripture?
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Many would say that the Bible is a product of myth, etc. Reading the Bible, however, in 1 and 2 Kings shows things written that are very detailed about events. Of course, not everything can be written. Even in a movie the camera is focused on a particular area, it doesn't record everything that happens.
2 Kings is almost an admission that the Bible can be traced to the monarchy period.
 

idea

Question Everything
Do you think it Is possible that God created the heavens and the earth, but no earthling man can see Him as He really is in heaven?

I believe if there was a loving God, Their scriptures would include accounts and prophecies for all people, not just those in the middle East. I ask again, where are prophecies for China? India? Africa? South America? Nothing in the Bible.
 
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idea

Question Everything
Christians care about ....Have you read the Bible? The scriptures don’t contain prophecies for every country because ...

because it is a partial history of one limited place and time. It doesn't apply to the entire world, although power-hungry empires would like it to.

Christians burned Mayan histories and books, destroyed African histories, would like to destroy Chinese history and the more ancient texts of India. Christians are ignorant of ancient texts of other people, ignorant of other older faith traditions, would like to burn and re-educate everyone to their limited world view. Sad, the histories of others which were destroyed.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I was responding to the idea that the Bible is concerned with gentiles. Yahweh is assigned the Hebrews by the council of El. Jesus said he was only here for Jews. I understand that they considered their laws important, but does tax code deserve to be scripture?
After his resurrection it was a different story. The word about Jesus was told to many others besides Jews (who often did not accept it), and at one point it was made clear to the apostles that God wanted the good news preached to all people, and that uncircumcized persons who accepted the good news about Jesus and who were willing to follow him were acceptable to Him.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
2 Kings is almost an admission that the Bible can be traced to the monarchy period.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but when I read the accounts in Kings and Samuel and others, I see they are so detailed -- it could not have been a myth. And, of course, as I said, one cannot possibly record everything about everybody.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
because it is a partial history of one limited place and time. It doesn't apply to the entire world, although power-hungry empires would like it to.

Christians burned Mayan histories and books, destroyed African histories, would like to destroy Chinese history and the more ancient texts of India. Christians are ignorant of ancient texts of other people, ignorant of other older faith traditions, would like to burn and re-educate everyone to their limited world view. Sad, the histories of others which were destroyed.
I used to feel the same way about so-called Christians, many of whom are either blind-sided or completely misled. Often by will. It's kind of like what Jesus said in warning to his followers, look out for the weeds and wheat.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I believe if there was a loving God, Their scriptures would include accounts and prophecies for all people, not just those in the middle East. I ask again, where are prophecies for China? India? Africa? South America? Nothing in the Bible.
There has been a period in recent times that the good news about Jesus and the kingdom of God for all mankind and those appreciating it is being preached throughout the earth. There are more Bibles printed than any other book ever written. Matthew 24:14. You might want to look that up.
Best-selling book | Guinness World Records
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I believe if there was a loving God, Their scriptures would include accounts and prophecies for all people, not just those in the middle East. I ask again, where are prophecies for China? India? Africa? South America? Nothing in the Bible.
Allow me to ask you what you think a loving God would do/should be doing. Here's how I understand it now: I no longer believe that life just came about by itself without divine intervention. I believe and accept what the Bible says about Adam and Eve. The Bible says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." That's the first sentence. This involves what you might think about God. The scriptures do include those nations beyond Israel but there is a reason why the nation of Israel was formed and why God concentrated on it for a long time.
 
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