Popeyesays
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Says who?
Not the Bible.
The Bible did not even exist in its current form till long long after the scriptures were written.
I agree. the book of revelation is never closed nor is it finished.
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Scott
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Says who?
Not the Bible.
The Bible did not even exist in its current form till long long after the scriptures were written.
Says who?
Not the Bible.
The Bible did not even exist in its current form till long long after the scriptures were written.
I agree. the book of revelation is never closed nor is it finished.
Jesus paid the price and when he died he said "It is finished" meaning exactly that.
Thank you.If he does speak to anyone, which he does, it always agrees with what he already said from Genesis to Revelation.
The scriptures are what God said.
The book of Revelation contain the last words given to us through his servant John on Patmos.
If anyone adds to what God said God will add to him the plagues written in the Bible.
Exactly why would you think it is not a closed book?
Thank you.
You have just shown that you know little to nothing about how the Bible came into existence.
.The Bible does not once mention the Bible
The Bible talks about scripture, some of which are in the Bible, some of which are not.
Bible and Scripture, regardless of how much you want to believe otherwise, are not synonyms.
The Bible is not a 'closed book' because the Bible does not contain all the scriptures available.
Also each book with a name of a person, such as a prophet, doesn't necessarily mean it was written by that prophet.
Take Isaiah for example. It is believed that some of the earlier chapters were genuinely written by him, but the rest were written later by someone else.
Or Moses have been credited with writing the 1st 5 books in the OT, known as the Torah to the Hebrews, but it was never written in the 1st person perspective, and it would be impossible for Moses to write the Deuteronomy, since it includes his death.
It is said that much of the Torah were written in various stages in Israel/judah history; but all of it after Moses' time. It is a myth that David written the whole of Psalms; most of them were written by someone else.
Similarly, not all the letters in the New Testament were written by the Jesus' original apostles.
No, you are trying to make the Bible something it is not.I refer to what the Bible is, it is the word of God, Jesus was the Word made flesh, the illustrated edition of God's word. God spoke int imes past by the prophets, but in these last days by his Son..
And what does this have to do with the Bible?You're missing my point. Jesus is all God has to say.
This is merely your opinion.Jesus was the word made flesh. God has no more to say. He is done.
When did God make this claim?That is not my point, I know what you present and there also may be a typo in there, who knows, but my point is what God said is finished. HE said all he is going to say in Christ. Salvation, eternity, judgment it is all about what Christ accomplished at the cross.
When did I imply this?It is a closed book, what you're doing is adding.
Jesus was the word made flesh. All God had to say he said in in Christ.
You're implying that Jesus was not enough, that his death, burial and resurrection were not sufficient.
It says no such thing.You are wrong.
God spoke to us by the prophets, but in these last days he spoke to us by his SON whom he made heir of all things.
ALL things.
The Bible tells us in Revelation 22 it is a closed book.
And what of the Books that the Bible refers to but that are not included?There are many books, but the Book, the Bible is all the world needs, it is the story of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world, the Saviour for every man regardless of what he thinks or believes.
The point is that your premise that the Bible is done is flat out false.Jesus was the illustrated edition of the Word of God.
Not a tangible papyrus, or leather scroll or whatever, but what proceeded from the mouth of
God is His Word and Jesus is that Word made flesh.
The Bible is a closed book meaning God said all he is going to say.
God has no more to say than what he said fin Christ regarldless of what man dreams up.
He said his mind in Christ.
Whether Moses, Daniel, Isaiah, whoever wrote whatever is in the Bible matters not.
Example, I don't know if Moses existed, but it matters not, we have the Torah.
MY point is the Bible cannot be added to. It is done.
Christ died.
Christ rose from the dead.
Christ will return.
The Bible tells the story of Jesus Christ.
That's it.
I came to this thread because it was started by a Muslim about Islam that Muhammed is prophesied in the Bible, this is my interest right now.
Jesus said he had many things to tell us and he does but it never disagrees with the Bible.
Example, Jesus would not say to go ahead and murder or commit adultery, etc.,that another is coming besides Jesus, or Muhammed is a prophet, or Baha'aujah is from God, or anything that is contrary to what he already said,
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The books cannot contain it all because Jesus is God and he is eternal in the heavens. The world itself cannot contain a l God has done simply because he is God not because he has a new story to tell.
Paul said that though an angel comes and says different let him be accursed.
And there you have it.
Where does Jesus say (in the Gospels in His Own words) that he is God? I'm not interested in what the commentators might say, or John the Divine--just Gospels, Jesus' Own words.
Jesus said "Before Abraham was I AM." and no one can say that without being a loony.
We can say we are this person or that person, but absolutely no one can say he is "I AM". Yet Jesus said it. He basically and ultimately said he is Yahweh.
Jesus Christ said he is the King of the Jews; (See John 19:19-22)
John 19:19 says that Pilate wrote a title and put it on the cross which said;
JESUS OF NAZARETH KING OF THE JEWS or in Hebrew;
HaYehudim W'Melech HaNazarei Yeshua
and the chief priests (more than one priest) said, "Write not, The King of the Jews; but that HE SAID (caps mine), I am the King of the Jews."
"He said" means that the chief priests SAID that Jesus SAID that he is the King of the Jews.
Hebrew reads from right to left,
the first letter of each word from right to left on the cross where Jesus died says;
YHWH
The Jews knew that to be the Son of of God is to be God himself and this is what Jesus claimed. Jesus also said in Revelation 1.8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.8
Jesus is not God, no one born of a woman in flesh can BE God. As soon as God entered into the flesh and contained Himself He would cease to be God.
Are you implying that God cannot do anything? You are limiting God to your own finite perception of what you think he is. Jesus told Nicodemus he was in heaven and he said this while he was on earth. John 3:13 (Jesus speaking here) "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
He was on earth when he the Son of man said he was in heaven. He is everywhere at once.
Jesus was part of Creation, God alone was not Created. therefore Jesus is not God.
John the Baptist said that God gave the spirit without measure to Jesus. John 3:34: . "for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him." Jesus contained all of God.
Jesus was not created, he was begotten, or in the original Greek in John 1.18 "the only begotten God."