Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) The Las messenger of Allah

[islam means peace]

In one of the thread a person name '.lava' was continuously trying to give and tell wrong thing about muslims believes and promoting false believes and claiming that muslim believes that and if you see the truth no muslim believe those thing. He is just telling things for her own and claiming that muslims believe that , I think he is doing a very wrong and bad thing.

For clearing these things and for those people who want to learn the truth i am just posting this thread with proves from Quran verse that Prophet Muhammad was the last and final messenger of Allah.

Watch these vidoes at

Muhammad (pbuh) the Last Prophet / Messenger of Allah | Learn and Clear Your Misconceptions About Islam.

and every thing will be clarified.

(As i donot know how to embed vidoes at this forums ,so i am posting a direct link , please also tell me if this possible to post vidoe to this forum for easy referenec and if so how?)

 

[.lava]

hi according to our knowledge that comes from Qur'an;

1-Mohammad SAW is the last of Prophets. Nabi means Prophet.
2-All the Prophets are messengers of Allah.
3-Rasol means messenger. though all teh Prophets are messengers, not all messengers are Prophets.

shortly, Mohammad SAW was, as Qur'an states clearly, seal of Nubuvvet/Prophethood. but messengers would keep coming till the end. these messengers are not Prophets. Mahdi for instance is a messenger of Allah but not a Prophet.

33:40 Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.

as you see, this verse does not say he is last of messengers. it says he is the last of Prophets

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[islam means peace]

Lava, I donot want to debate more on this , if you want to debate its better to go to some Islamic Scholar who can guide you more properly on this issue, with reference to Quran and hadis , even then if you want to strict on your opinion then i can only say this

Surah Al-Kafiron Ayat 6.

" To you be your Way, and to me mine."


May Allah guide all of us to the true path.

 

[.lava]

Lava, I donot want to debate more on this , if you want to debate its better to go to some Islamic Scholar who can guide you more properly on this issue, with reference to Quran and hadis , even then if you want to strict on your opinion then i can only say this

Surah Al-Kafiron Ayat 6.

" To you be your Way, and to me mine."


May Allah guide all of us to the true path.

if you are not willing to discuss with me then it is better if you just stop accusing me for things. you can't have it both ways. either create your threads without mentioning my name or deal with it properly. don't worry i am guided well. i just don't understand your hostility and behavour. so you can't even talk to me?

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[.lava]

with help of my beloved teacher, May Allah Bless him

for anyone who cares;

Rasol means messenger. Prophets are messengers of God but not all messengers are Prophets. please read Qur'an;

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22 / AL-HAJJ - 75:Allah chooses messengers from angels and from men. Verily, Allah is He Who hears and sees (all things).

Angels can not be Prophets. but they can be messengers.

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6 / AL AN’ÂM – 130: O you assembly of jinn and mankind! “Did not there come to you (Resuls) Messengers from amongst you, reciting (reading and explaining) unto you My Verses and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “We bear witness against our souls (ourselves).” It was their life of this world that deceived them. And they will bear witness against their souls (themselves) that they were QAFIR (the blasphemous).

Qur'an states that jinns have Rasols/Messengers from among them but jinns can not be Prophets.

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12 / YÛSUF - 50: So the king said: ‘Bring him to me.’ But the Resul (Messenger) came to him, and (Joseph) said: ‘Go back to your lord, and ask him why the ladies cut their hands.’ Verily, Allah is well aware of their snare.

this verse is about messenger of Pharaoh who's an atheist and Joseph and messenger of Pharaoh is also called Rasol. someone who does not even believe in God can not be Prophet.

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23 / AL-MU`MINUN - 44: Then, We sent our messengers in succession. Every tribe to which their messenger came rejected him. So We terminated them and made them a legend. Let the tribe which is not MUMIN (among the believers of Allah who wishes to reach Him) be away!

there are no hundreds of years between messengers. they come one after another. but no Prophet came right one after other. there are at least centuries between.

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39 / AZ – ZUMAR – 71: The QAFIRS (the blasphemous ones) will be driven to Hell in groups till, when they reach it, the gates thereof will be opened. And its keepers will say: “Did not the Messengers come to you from among yourselves, reciting (reading and explaining) to you the Verses of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “Yes, they did. But the Word of torment (Decree of Chastisement) has been justified against QAFIRS (the blasphemous ones).”

unlike Prophets each nation would have a messenger from among themselves.

and for the last one;

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44 / AD-DUKHÂN - 10: Then watch for the day that the sky will bring forth a kind of smoke (or mist) plainly visible.
44 / AD-DUKHÂN - 11: It is such a smoke that it will surrender the people. This is a Grievous Chastisement.
44 / AD-DUKHÂN - 12: They will say: ‘Our Lord, remove this torment from us for we are MUMIN."
44 / AD-DUKHÂN - 13: They do not derive a lesson (reminder). Verily, there has come to them a Messenger evidently.
44 / AD-DUKHÂN - 14: Then, they turned away, and said, "He is a trained insane person."
44 / AD-DUKHÂN - 15: We will remove the torment for some time, but you will fall into blasphemy again.

who are these people who claim to be Mumins though they are really not and therefor suffer? Sahaba? OF COURSE NOT! so, how could a Mumin reject a messenger after Mohammad SAW?

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[TashaN]

In one of the thread a person name '.lava' was continuously trying to give and tell wrong thing about muslims believes and promoting false believes and claiming that muslim believes that and if you see the truth no muslim believe those thing. He is just telling things for her own and claiming that muslims believe that , I think he is doing a very wrong and bad thing.

For clearing these things and for those people who want to learn the truth i am just posting this thread with proves from Quran verse that Prophet Muhammad was the last and final messenger of Allah.

Watch these vidoes at

Muhammad (pbuh) the Last Prophet / Messenger of Allah | Learn and Clear Your Misconceptions About Islam.

and every thing will be clarified.

(As i donot know how to embed vidoes at this forums ,so i am posting a direct link , please also tell me if this possible to post vidoe to this forum for easy referenec and if so how?)

Brother/sister, this is not the proper way to deal with people.

125. Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (Quran 16:125)

ادْعُ إِلَى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
سورة النحل - آية 125

I, too, disagree with lava, but she is my friend and when we disagree, we just discuss and guide each other, and if we couldn't convince each other, we always leave it for Allah to clarify it for us in day of judgement.

 

[Phill]

I found this Surah which explaines who the Prophets were and will be. Hope it helps

29:27 And We gave (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob, and ordained among his progeny Prophethood and Revelation, and We granted him his reward in this life; and he was in the Hereafter (of the company) of the Righteous.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

Muhammad was the last and final messenger of Allah.

EXCEPT, of course, that some of us accept both Muhammad and Islam WITHOUT stating that Muhammad was the last Divine Messenger, and indeed believe quite the opposite!:

There are a number of reasons why it isn't necessary to consider Muhammad the "final" Divine Messenger:

· First off, EVERY Divine Messenger may properly be referred to as the First, the Last, the Alpha, the Omega, the Beginning, the End, and the Seal!
· Second, the term used in the Qur'an is "nabi"--a minor prophet like Jeremiah or Amos. In contrast, "Ras'ul" refers to major religion-founding Divine Messengers like Moses, Christ, and Muhamamd Himself. The Qur'an thus states Muhammad is the Seal of the nabi or minor prophets (while being Himself a Ras'ul). The Qur'an does NOT say Muhammad is the Seal of the major Divine Messengers!
· Third, while Muhammad did end the Prophetic Age, another Age--the Age of fulfillment--has now started! So while Muhammad did indeed close out that of prophecies, there's no end to Divine Guidance or further Messengers to deliver it.
· Finally, there is a sense in which the word translated as "seal" in that verse simply means "ornament," thus saying Muhammad is the Ornament of the prophets. Nothing about any sort of ending at all!

YMMV as always, but these are the facts as we see them!

Peace, and best regards,

Bruce

 

[.lava]

Brother/sister, this is not the proper way to deal with people.

125. Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (Quran 16:125)

ادْعُ إِلَى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
سورة النحل - آية 125

I, too, disagree with lava, but she is my friend and when we disagree, we just discuss and guide each other, and if we couldn't convince each other, we always leave it for Allah to clarify it for us in day of judgement.

thank you for your friendly approach TashaN. that verse you shared is considered by me in the same manner. though as a person i am known as being the one who talks with no fear and such, i pay attention to how i treat my Muslim brothers and sisters. i sincerely try not to break their hearts or humiliate them. i won't ask anything inreturn and i can't care if my attitude towards Muslims whom i disagree with is considered by them or not. i would follow commands and we are openly told that breaking heart of a Mumin is worse than breaking down Ka'ba. that means something very valuable to me. but for some people a building that can be replaced again is more important than lives of people. that's a shame.

i have questions. we already had answers for them. how would Muslims explain such a thing? for instance...

39 / AZ – ZUMAR – 71: The QAFIRS (the blasphemous ones) will be driven to Hell in groups till, when they reach it, the gates thereof will be opened. And its keepers will say: “Did not the Messengers come to you from among yourselves, reciting (reading and explaining) to you the Verses of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “Yes, they did. But the Word of torment (Decree of Chastisement) has been justified against QAFIRS (the blasphemous ones).”

how could a Russian/American/Indian/Mexican...(whoever) person who's alive today can say that "a messenger among his public came to him and warned him"? if Mohammad SAW was the last of messengers and if he lived 1400 years ago, how could any of us can say such a thing?

17 / AL-ISR’ – 15: Whoever reaches hidâyet (the true guidance leading to Allah, makes his spirit reach Allah) has attained Hidayet only for the benefit of his soul (ego). And whoever is in Misguidance (goes astray), then he goes astray at his own loss. No bearer of burdens can bear another’s burden (of those who do fulfill the warnings of the Warner). And We never punish (any person, any nation) until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).

if Mohammad SAW was the last of messengers, would that mean no men would be judged for his sins simply because he lived after his time? how could we say next generations of humanity is free from judgement day? who's going to warn people who's present today and next generations?

10 / YÛNUS - 47: Every nation (people) has been sent a messenger. When their messenger came to them, they were judged between them with justice. They are not treated unjustly.

when did, for example, USA send a messenger?

14 / IBRAHIM - 4: There is no Messenger that We sent except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. So Allah leaves those (who do not wish to reach Allah) whom He pleases in DALALET (Misguidance), and guides whom He pleases to Himself (HIDAYAT= True Guidance leading to Allah). He is Exalted in power, the All-Wise.

so far i know all the Prophets lived in Middle East. Judaism, Christianity and Islam were given books in Middle East. none of those Prophets spoke any Japanesse or Spanish...etc. Messengers just like Qur'an clearly states come to each nation, they speak language of their own people so that they could communicate with them and unlike Prophets they come right one after another. i sincerely can not understand how come you don't see something very clear.

btw, i am not Baha'i. i belong to no section because Qur'an rejects all section. i do believe that Mohammad SAW is Hatemul Enbiya, the last of Enbiyas, the last of Nabis, the last of Prophets. but he is not the last of messengers because God would not hold people responsible of their Dalalat unless a messenger was sent to them, a messenger among themselves. who's going to explain to me how on Earth any Prophet we know could be considered as "among Japanesse people" today?

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