Prospective Trump AG: We're going to put kids in cages

[Watchmen]

I love green peas.
And I can criticize both Obama & Trump for wrongs they've committed.

Bingo

 

[Revoltingest]

And I'm not trying to "defeat the criticism of Trump." I'm pointing out that the criticism is weakened by the fact it's selective as to who it is hurled against.

The validity of criticism isn't lessened
by the sins of some of the critics.

 

[Watchmen]

The validity of criticism isn't lessened
by the sins of some of the critics.

Maybe not the validity, but the credibility certainly is.

 

[Revoltingest]

Maybe not the validity, but the credibility certainly is.

Information matters.
Not the credibility of some critics.

Are you using Democrats to justify locking
up children in cages, ie, that the worst of
Democrats should be the Maga's basis
for morality?

 

[Watchmen]

Information matters.
Not the credibility of some critics.
Are you using Democrats to justify locking
up children in cages, ie, that the worst of
Democrats should be the Maga's basis
for morality?

I do not promote or advocate the locking up of children in cages. And credibility does matter.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

And? Does that make it right somehow?

Of course! You know that two wrongs make a right. Heck, I suspect that you can keep on adding wrongs and making everything more and more right -- until when you've finally achieved doing everything wrong, the world will be Utopia!

 

[Revoltingest]

I do not promote or advocate the locking up of children in cages. And credibility does matter.

If an argument or accusation is cromulent, then
it stands on its own, regardless of who makes it.
If Obama does something wrong, it's wrong, no
matter who catches him at it. If Trump does the
same bad thing, it too is wrong, no matter how
hypocritical some Democrats are.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

With their familes, not separated. And these were short term detention areas that were outside. Cages? Not really. The migrants waited inside areas that had fencing. Kinda like a tennis court. A cage?

Compare that to what Trump did and detained and held migrants in detention centers for multiple days, and without adequate food, water, and sanitation, often in overcrowded conditions. This was illegal. The ICE agents prevented humanitarian workers from enetering the centers to asses the conditions and the migrants.

US: New Report Shines Spotlight on Abuses and Growth in Immigrant Detention Under Trump

(Washington, DC, April 30, 2020) – The American Civil Liberties Union, Human Rights Watch, and National Immigrant Justice Center released a first-of-its-kind report today on immigration detention under the Trump administration: “Justice-Free Zones: U.S. Immigration Detention Under the Trump...

www.hrw.org

So let's focus on Trump since he lacks the conscience of a normal human being. What will he do this time to migrants?

And can we remember that this was all done under the auspices of the man he has now named his new "border czar," Tom Homan -- who just the other day said that the way to deport people without breaking up families is just to "deport whole families."

 

[Twilight Hue]

With their familes, not separated. And these were short term detention areas that were outside. Cages? Not really. The migrants waited inside areas that had fencing. Kinda like a tennis court. A cage?

Compare that to what Trump did and detained and held migrants in detention centers for multiple days, and without adequate food, water, and sanitation, often in overcrowded conditions. This was illegal. The ICE agents prevented humanitarian workers from enetering the centers to asses the conditions and the migrants.

US: New Report Shines Spotlight on Abuses and Growth in Immigrant Detention Under Trump

(Washington, DC, April 30, 2020) – The American Civil Liberties Union, Human Rights Watch, and National Immigrant Justice Center released a first-of-its-kind report today on immigration detention under the Trump administration: “Justice-Free Zones: U.S. Immigration Detention Under the Trump...

www.hrw.org

So let's focus on Trump since he lacks the conscience of a normal human being. What will he do this time to migrants?

Maybe you should start looking at the conscience of those who had started this whole crisis in the first place by essentially opening up the doors of the country wide open proclaiming to any Tom, Dick , and Harry along with Jane that wants to walk on in that they were promised Asylum and all sorts of perks and benefits they could only dream of.

None of this would be happening today on this scale that can only be described as a massive cluster f*** if it wasn't for those traitorous imbeciles who orchestrated it all, and people now have the sheer gall to blame Trump for it all?

I would say a fair number of people need to get their priorities straight and the sooner the better.

 

[F1fan]

Maybe you should start looking at the conscience of those who had started this whole crisis in the first place by essentially opening up the doors of the country wide open proclaiming to any Tom, Dick , and Harry along with Jane that wants to walk on in that they were promised Asylum and all sorts of perks and benefits they could only dream of.

Oh, you're talking about the Mayflower. So you want to talk about how Native Americans were slaughtered by white invaders from Europe. OK.

Of course where it comes to the vast majority of migrnats, they just want a better life, and have work skills and ability that most of us won't do.

None of this would be happening today on this scale that can only be described as a massive cluster f*** if it wasn't for those traitorous imbeciles who orchestrated it all, and people now have the sheer gall to blame Trump for it all?

Yet Trump solved nothing in his four years. The problem for your side of extremists is that there is no way Trump can deport millions of migrants, and even if he could it would be a disaster for the economy. Someone in Trump's administration is going to know this and try to talk him out of it. They will also try to talk him out of tariffs.

Of course Trump is a stubborn idiot and he might ignore the better informed and smarter advisors, and do stupid things that cause severe harm to America. I'll be on the forum waiting for your reaction when inflation ramps up again, and with no Dems to blame.

I would say a fair number of people need to get their priorities straight and the sooner the better.

That number are MAGAs. But they are stubborn, too. They need to experience the consequences of their poor election judgment before they realize Trump is an idiot. Thet might eventually regret voting for the criminal candidate.

 

[Watchmen]

If an argument or accusation is cromulent, then
it stands on its own, regardless of who makes it.
If Obama does something wrong, it's wrong, no
matter who catches him at it. If Trump does the
same bad thing, it too is wrong, no matter how
hypocritical some Democrats are.

Well, I can’t argue with that. Wrong is wrong.

 

[Shaul]

This is nonsense. Mike Davis has not been named as President Trump's choice for Attorney General. This blogger is not a reliable source. This is fiction made up by someone trying to gain clickbait hits, nothing more. It shows how desperate the anti-Trump crowd is. They are writing unsubstantiated stories based on things that haven't even happened.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Oh, you're talking about the Mayflower. So you want to talk about how Native Americans were slaughtered by white invaders from Europe. OK.

Of course where it comes to the vast majority of migrnats, they just want a better life, and have work skills and ability that most of us won't do.

Yet Trump solved nothing in his four years. The problem for your side of extremists is that there is no way Trump can deport millions of migrants, and even if he could it would be a disaster for the economy. Someone in Trump's administration is going to know this and try to talk him out of it. They will also try to talk him out of tariffs.

Of course Trump is a stubborn idiot and he might ignore the better informed and smarter advisors, and do stupid things that cause severe harm to America. I'll be on the forum waiting for your reaction when inflation ramps up again, and with no Dems to blame.

That number are MAGAs. But they are stubborn, too. They need to experience the consequences of their poor election judgment before they realize Trump is an idiot. Thet might eventually regret voting for the criminal candidate.

That is so out of touch I don't even know where to begin.

If anything, we should learn the lessons of what the indigenous have endured and what migrant invasions do to people and their nations.

 

[metis]

The epitome of MAGA hatred and cruelty.

Trump’s Likely AG Mike Davis: ‘We’re Going to Put Kids in Cages’

“I will rain hell on Washington D.C.,” Mike Davis told Benny Johnson about plans for the second Trump administration.

www.thedailybeast.com

And yet so many "Christians" don't seem to be bothered by that.

sick

 

[F1fan]

That is so out of touch I don't even know where to begin.

Of course you ar confised. You want to ignore history and how Europeans immigrated to land that was occupied by other societies and cultures.

If anything, we should learn the lessons of what the indigenous have endured and what migrant invasions do to people and their nations.

Are you afraid that hotdogs and apple pie with be replaced with a burrito? Let's have a meeting about it on Taco Tuesday.

Of course your fear of culture repacement is absurd. And anyway, brown skinned people will outnumber whites in the next decade. Does that make your white fragility riled up?

 

[F1fan]

And yet so many "Christians" don't seem to be bothered by that.

sick

I suspect Christians underestimated how bad the criminal president is going to be. The hard core extremists will be gleeful at the unhumane practices, but the good, but deceived, folk will quickly be horrified at the criminal administration's actions.

 

[Viker]

Obama put kids in cages.

He didn't brag about it. He didn't go to the public and say it out loud.

 

[Viker]

And yet so many "Christians" don't seem to be bothered by that.

sick

What Christians? Where? I'm having a hard time finding many anymore. A rare creature these days.

 

[Watchmen]

He didn't brag about it. He didn't go to the public and say it out loud.

True

 

[Twilight Hue]

Of course you ar confised. You want to ignore history and how Europeans immigrated to land that was occupied by other societies and cultures.

Are you afraid that hotdogs and apple pie with be replaced with a burrito? Let's have a meeting about it on Taco Tuesday.

Of course your fear of culture repacement is absurd. And anyway, brown skinned people will outnumber whites in the next decade. Does that make your white fragility riled up?

Just as I figured, massively out of touch.

Not to mention the tired and predictable, "you are racist tripe" has absolutely no effect in your attempt to gain the upper hand on whatever it is you are trying to prove or state here.