Proud Boy Leader Pleads Guilty to Seditious Conspiracy

[pearl]

The more I read about the difficulty of proving seditious conspiracy, I wonder if he did not take a 'plea deal'.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I'd say they hate to see what is being done done the American government that caused them to act the way they did.

In their eyes they see themselves as protecters, not attacker's.

Everyone likes to think of themselves as moral, good and right.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Everyone likes to think of themselves as moral, good and right.

It's all subjective. True.

 

[fantome profane]

It's all subjective. True.

Again, all the more reason to not commit acts of violence.

If you are wrong, you say the wrong thing, you support the wrong position, you can make amends. But if you are wrong and you go out killing people or blowing things up, that is a different matter.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't believe that was discussed. The conspiracy component links to his actions with other Proud Boys leadership, but I don't think they've established collusion with Trump.

Closest I saw was them commenting on a tripling of membership following some of the former Presidents more inciteful speeches, but in my very amateur understanding that in now way amounts to collusion.

I want to hear more from the horse's mouth.

 

[SomeRandom]

I'd say they hate to see what is being done done the American government that caused them to act the way they did.

In their eyes they see themselves as protecters, not attacker's.

No one is ever the villain of their own story. What’s the saying? One man’s freedom fighter is another’s terrorist?

 

[SomeRandom]

The electoral process was what the government did to make them act like dimwitted dopes. The American people voted to extinguish the disastrous dumpster fire that was Trump, so the insurrectionists went on a redneck rampage because they didn't get to turn The U.S. into a third world theocracy.

It's cute how you're trying to blame the left for the right's embarrassing failures.

I say this as an outside observer.
Whilst the over the top reactions to Trump becoming President from leftists (?) were beyond cringe, with them crying.
The reaction to Trump losing to Biden from the right (?) was beyond embarrassing. A bunch of conspiracies and temper tantrums.
Not saying either reflects the entire left or right side, of course. But the reactions of the MAGA types or alt right types or whatever were/are like watching a horrific car crash. I can’t look away!!

 

[Twilight Hue]

No one is ever the villain of their own story. What’s the saying? One man’s freedom fighter is another’s terrorist?

Yep. That's pretty much it.