Prove it

[Gentoo]

Personal Jab??????

Her arguement was based on a difference of interpretation, which she admitted herself. Hence she really had no leg to stand on to argue her point. She took her own leg out from under her own arguement.

This wasn't a personal attack. Your sensitivity to my statements shows that you just have a problem with me.:yes:

And just to let you know, that was not a personal attack either.

Perhaps, you and I have a different interpretation of the phrase "Personal Attack". Difference in interpretation does NOT mean that it's wrong. It's just different, a different way of looking the same situation. Everyone has a different way of viewing/reading/experiencing the same event.

And no, I don't have a problem with you, but I think that the way you come off can be a little rude.

 

[MaddLlama]

Some believe it is and some believe it isnt. Different interpretation. It is of no real consequence.

Why does your interpretation have to be right, and hers wrong? There really is absolutely no indication in the entire chapter that ny of the men on horseback are supposed to be Jesus, and Becky's interpretation is the most common.


And, the way in which Jesus appears at the end of the world is hardly "silly stuff". I would think that would be pretty important. Besides, you're the one that brought it up. A place like this, you can't expect to say something and not have someone check your facts, and argue with them if you're wrong. Thats why it's a debate forum .

 

[MaddLlama]

Oh, I see....so when it's your interpretation it's correct, but when someone else presents thier own interpretation then it's worthless.

Did it ever occur to you that it's possible you might be wrong ? If an argument based on an interpretation is 'faulty', then the chances are that yours could be just as 'Wrong'.

 

[Gentoo]

How do you feel about the people that are debating with me? Do you think that they are rude?

I think that they are responding to what comes across as hostility. The internet is odd like that, we have to rely on text, rather than tone of voice and body language. A lot of meaning can get lost. But I've found that by typing something along the lines of: "Just curious but why ____?" or "Not to pick a fight but _____?" etc. While you may not have meant the things posted to come across as such, it can, and apparently did.

 

[RevOxley_501]

i would ask for your birth certificate


obviously

i cant believe no one agreed here?!?!?
i mean--i thought SURELY Anngellous_Evangelongname would be with me here?!?

 

[Fluffy]

If I were to come here and say that I am Jesus, is there any way anyone could prove yes or no??

You would have the burden of proof. We would be rational to live our lives as if you were not Jesus until you were to successfully take up that burden.

 

[MaddLlama]

First of all, the interpretation of scripture is hardly something that has no impact. And, second of all if you are on the same team and have the same goal, do you think that maybe you should have made an effort to be nice to your fellow Christians instead of blazing in here with the apparent goal of negating the mormon denomination?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

i cant believe no one agreed here?!?!?
i mean--i thought SURELY Anngellous_Evangelongname would be with me here?!?

I would agree, but since we don't have a similar birth certificate for the first Jesus, I don't see how it would be of use.

 

[MaddLlama]

What evidence is there that the man on horseback in Revelation 6:2 is Jesus?

 

[adilrockstar]

What other evidence is there that the man on horseback in Revelation 6:2 is Jesus?

Since I already explained that this subject is trivial, and open to opinion, why don't we talk about the other signs that will come and give evidence of Christ' return. That would prove to the OP that he could not make his claim.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Fine, then let's get back on topic......what evidence is there that the man on horseback in Revelation 6:2 is Jesus?

There is none.

 

[darkpenguin]

I think the only true confirmation would be confirmation given by the Holy Spirit...

When Christ returns...His people will KNOW.

oh please he could be walking around right now and you wouldn't know!

 

[adilrockstar]

Well, no actually. You specifically said that we would know Jesus returned because he would come down on a white horse with a sword coming out of his mouth. It isn't trivial to me, and I want to know what kind of scripture you use to substantiate that claim.

Unless, you take it back and that's not how we'll know it's him.

I provided the scripture. Did you miss it?

I also said there are many other signs. You are just hanging on to your weak arguement, because you have nothing else to offer.

 

[cardero]

If I were to come here and say that I am Jesus, is there any way anyone could prove yes or no??

How much do you charge for a set of book shelves?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

How much do you charge for a set of book shelves?

:clapBravo! :clap

Finally a relevant post! If he charges under $1000, he must be Jesus. If not, he's the Tooth Fairy.

 

[MaddLlama]

I provided the scripture. Did you miss it?

I also said there are many other signs. You are just hanging on to your weak arguement, because you have nothing else to offer.

You quoted rev 6:1-2. I pointed out that there is no direct and undeniable evidence in that passage to prove that man is Jesus as you claimed. I wanted to know what other evidence you have to support the idea that the man on the horse is Jesus.

I'm not hanging on a weak argument, because I don't even have one. I'm not arguing anything with you, I just don't find your argument convincing, so I am asking for more evidence. Is that too much to ask?

 

[adilrockstar]

oh please he could be walking around right now and you wouldn't know!

The Bible teaches differently.

Luke 17:32-24
And they shall say to you, See here; or there: go not after them, nor follow them. For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the son of man be in his day.

We will know. There are other signs as well.

Moon will turn red like blood, stars will fall from the sky, the sun will cease to shine.....these are signs of the Coming of Jesus.

 

[adilrockstar]

You quoted rev 6:1-2. I pointed out that there is no direct and undeniable evidence in that passage to prove that man is Jesus as you claimed. I wanted to know what other evidence you have to support the idea that the man on the horse is Jesus.

I'm not hanging on a weak argument, because I don't even have one. I'm not arguing anything with you, I just don't find your argument convincing, so I am asking for more evidence. Is that too much to ask?

Not arguing? If that make you feel better, go ahead.

You obviously still didn't read my previous post. I said and so did Soup that this is opinion and is not proveable. You keep on and on and on and on about it though. That is kind of why I made the "brick wall" comment. I say something and it goes right past you.

The original OP was asking if he could claim to be Jesus and get away with it. I made just one comment, and you are kicking it over and over and it is long laid to rest. I have offered many other signs of Christ return but you don't want to hear them.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Moon will turn red like blood, stars will fall from the sky, the sun will cease to shine.....these are signs of the Coming of Jesus.

Sounds nasty.

 

[adilrockstar]

Sounds nasty.

I agree, thanks to Satan, the world will be pretty "nasty".