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purpose on earth

syo

Well-Known Member
the purpose of life is to obey God's commands. according to the christian orthodox, God is love. but love only happens when we are many. so God created us in order that love can happen. God created laws of nature, that we must obey. so we must love each other and follow the laws of nature. when the time comes, the good people will join God and they will have ultimate bliss. God won't be alone, but he will have us in terms of love and bliss. our whole life is a preparation to join God by obeying to him. this is how I understand the answer to the question ''why were we created''.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
the purpose of life is to obey God's commands. according to the christian orthodox, God is love. but love only happens when we are many. so God created us in order that love can happen. God created laws of nature, that we must obey. so we must love each other and follow the laws of nature. when the time comes, the good people will join God and they will have ultimate bliss. God won't be alone, but he will have us in terms of love and bliss. our whole life is a preparation to join God by obeying to him. this is how I understand the answer to the question ''why were we created''.

We can have all of that as well as a sense of purpose without a god belief. Adding a god into the mix doesn't add purpose. It just changes that purpose from serving those around you to serving the god, who might instruct you to serve your neighbors anyway, but now you're doing it for the god and not the neighbors.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
We can have all of that as well as a sense of purpose without a god belief. Adding a god into the mix doesn't add purpose. It just changes that purpose from serving those around you to serving the god, who might instruct you to serve your neighbors anyway, but now you're doing it for the god and not the neighbors.
Agreed. When you need a god to remind you to do what you should be doing anyways, you are already on pretty thin ice. One should not do something because some god tells them to do it, they should do it because they already know it's the right thing to do. Invoking god is like making an excuse.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
We can have all of that as well as a sense of purpose without a god belief. Adding a god into the mix doesn't add purpose. It just changes that purpose from serving those around you to serving the god, who might instruct you to serve your neighbors anyway, but now you're doing it for the god and not the neighbors.
Agreed. When you need a god to remind you to do what you should be doing anyways, you are already on pretty thin ice. One should not do something because some god tells them to do it, they should do it because they already know it's the right thing to do. Invoking god is like making an excuse.
god is the universal truth, that noone can defeat. :)
 

Akivah

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the purpose of life is to obey God's commands. according to the christian orthodox, God is love. but love only happens when we are many. so God created us in order that love can happen. God created laws of nature, that we must obey. so we must love each other and follow the laws of nature. when the time comes, the good people will join God and they will have ultimate bliss. God won't be alone, but he will have us in terms of love and bliss. our whole life is a preparation to join God by obeying to him. this is how I understand the answer to the question ''why were we created''.

That's interesting.

The purpose of life in accordance with Judaism is "pleasure". Since G-d is infinite and has no needs or motivations, we understand that G-d created everything for us, for our pleasure. Video: What is the Purpose of Life? (5:43 duration)

Just about every decision we humans make is intended to lead to some sort of gratification. Attaining our pleasure, which encompasses meaning and fulfillment is our life drive.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
That's interesting.

The purpose of life in accordance with Judaism is "pleasure". Since G-d is infinite and has no needs or motivations, we understand that G-d created everything for us, for our pleasure. Video: What is the Purpose of Life? (5:43 duration)

Just about every decision we humans make is intended to lead to some sort of gratification. Attaining our pleasure, which encompasses meaning and fulfillment is our life drive.
that's a great cause. i think love is the greatest pleasure.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
god is the universal truth, that noone can defeat. :)
I agree, completely.
What that doesn't mean is that god cares about human behavior, morality. Why would s/he? We are as we are created.
Ghengis Khan is arguably the most successful human to ever live.
In more quantitative terms, ~10% of the men who reside within the borders of the Mongol Empire as it was at the death of Genghis Khan may carry his Y chromosome, and so ~0.5% of men in the world, about 16 million individuals alive today, do so.
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan - Gene Expression

That's Divine morality, if god's creation is your guide. "Spread your genes" is the Divine Mandate we are all born with. Kill your genetic competitors, take their stuff, and impregnate their women.

Chicks dig it.

Humans have managed to learn how to have a more fulfilling and secure life, how to behave morally. But we don't learn that from any god, we learn to do differently sometimes and we learn it from other humans.

Primitive humans usually needed another human claiming to speak for god to recognize the value of living a moral life, rather than a natural one. And they often still do. That's why religionists commonly assert that there is no morality unless a prophet described it in an old book.
Tom
 
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Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
the purpose of life is to obey God's commands. according to the christian orthodox, God is love. but love only happens when we are many. so God created us in order that love can happen. God created laws of nature, that we must obey. so we must love each other and follow the laws of nature. when the time comes, the good people will join God and they will have ultimate bliss. God won't be alone, but he will have us in terms of love and bliss. our whole life is a preparation to join God by obeying to him. this is how I understand the answer to the question ''why were we created''.

I think that's only logical.

There has to be a purpose for something to be created, and :heart: is the greatest purpose, motivation for anything
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
the purpose of life is to obey God's commands. according to the christian orthodox, God is love. but love only happens when we are many. so God created us in order that love can happen. God created laws of nature, that we must obey. so we must love each other and follow the laws of nature. when the time comes, the good people will join God and they will have ultimate bliss. God won't be alone, but he will have us in terms of love and bliss. our whole life is a preparation to join God by obeying to him. this is how I understand the answer to the question ''why were we created''.

How do you know any of this stuff is true?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
In Hinduism, the ultimate purpose is nirvikalpa samadhi, or in English, Self-realisation. There are many smaller purposes (dharma) on the way to that.
 
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