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Put on your oven mitts folks, you are going to need them:

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Wa- Was that a Bill Nye cameo??
Also who cares if Darwin, a man who lived during the freaking 1800s, was a racist? *cough* Slave owners using the Bible to justify racist slavery *cough*
Isn't that a bit like dismissing Newton's laws of physics because he held views that are deemed sexist by today's standards (probably.)
Wow guy who lived pre integration was (allegedly) racist. In other news water is wet.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I am amazed that Kent Hovind, convicted tax cheat and liar has any credibility with other creationists.
Well Hovind did serve time in prison for his tax cheating, so that's a wash. And because they're all liars, at least the professional creationists are, he fits in well with the crowd. Plus he's one of a few who has earned a PhD in something or another,* which makes him an attractive catch in creationist circles as a doctor. Think I'm Kidding? I've Got Proof !!!!!


Dr kent hovind.png

So there. :p




* Yes, I know. ;)

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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well Hovind did serve time in prison for his tax cheating, so that's a wash. And because they're all liars, at least the professional creationists are, he fits in well with the crowd. Plus he's one of a few who has earned a PhD in something or another,* which makes him an attractive catch in creationist circles as a doctor. Think I'm Kidding? I've Got Proof !!!!!



So there. :p




* Yes, I know. ;)

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When I can't decide between funny and winner go with winner! Nice one.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
* Yes, I know. ;)

Hovind received his Ph.D. from 'Patriot Bible University', Christian college that has no accreditation so it must be legit.

They don't make student dissertations available for academic or scientific review for some reason.

However Hovinds dissertation found it way out of the Patriot vaults and one comment on reviewing it by Karen Bartlet, her conclusion was [it] makes no useful contribution to scholarship, except perhaps as an example of how not to write one.

This Rational Wiki article makes interesting reading
Kent Hovind's doctoral dissertations - RationalWiki
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The trailer is one face palming PRATT after another.
Don't watching that video make ya wanna interrupt and interrupt and interrupt again ...

And why do they star Kent Hovind, a convicted felon, a deliberate and self-serving liar on oath to boot, with something like ten years' experience in the Big House? Those blond locks and schoolboy style? Prettier'n Ken Ham?

It's all sooooo last century.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
I like the Haekel quote... after all he did palm off a fraud that stood in text books through the last century

You must be well acquainted with this, to post of it so often.

Please explain in exact detail what he did that was a fraud.

If you have time after your treatise, you might tell us
whether Lowell* was also a "fraud", re his work on the canals of Mars.

*Percival Lowell - Wikipedia
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I like the Haekel quote... after all he did palm off a fraud that stood in text books through the last century
Haeckel was never shown to be a fraud. Why break the Ninth Commandment? And those people have to know better. Haeckel was not a "co-founder" of evolution. Why would you side with people that openly lied?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
i wonder if the folks in that video are sincere or are hucksters?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
i wonder if the folks in that video are sincere or are hucksters?

I think an actually sincere person would be characterized
by their doing of due diligence.

It is simply impossible to be an informed and
sincere / honest creationist.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Haeckel was never shown to be a fraud. Why break the Ninth Commandment? And those people have to know better. Haeckel was not a "co-founder" of evolution. Why would you side with people that openly lied?

Why be a drive-by poster is another suitable q.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
A new creationist movie is coming out on evolution. The trailer is one face palming PRATT after another.

Should we break down the claims one at time?
Yeah, that was really bad OK? Not exactly sure what lifestyle Bill Nye is wanting to choose so that he can ignore creationism! But it doesn't mean better arguments aren't out there. Sensitive Chaos by Theodore Schwenk for instance, shows that perforations in bones match what would happen if liquid was travelling through them when they are formed.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Hovind received his Ph.D. from 'Patriot Bible University', Christian college that has no accreditation so it must be legit.

They don't make student dissertations available for academic or scientific review for some reason.

However Hovinds dissertation found it way out of the Patriot vaults and one comment on reviewing it by Karen Bartlet, her conclusion was [it] makes no useful contribution to scholarship, except perhaps as an example of how not to write one.

This Rational Wiki article makes interesting reading
Kent Hovind's doctoral dissertations - RationalWiki
It's a good read if you're looking to have a deep and hearty laugh.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yeah, that was really bad OK? Not exactly sure what lifestyle Bill Nye is wanting to choose so that he can ignore creationism! But it doesn't mean better arguments aren't out there. Sensitive Chaos by Theodore Schwenk for instance, shows that perforations in bones match what would happen if liquid was travelling through them when they are formed.
I looked into his work. It appears to be spirituality filled woo. What peer reviewed articles on this has he written?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Yeah, that was really bad OK? Not exactly sure what lifestyle Bill Nye is wanting to choose so that he can ignore creationism! But it doesn't mean better arguments aren't out there. Sensitive Chaos by Theodore Schwenk for instance, shows that perforations in bones match what would happen if liquid was travelling through them when they are formed.

Huh?
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I looked into his work. It appears to be spirituality filled woo. What peer reviewed articles on this has he written?

Sensitive Chaos is not spiritual at all.


So if the bone were a tube and water was running through, that water would have a vector map so to say. There are holes in bones and they are shaped like that vector map. Does that make any sense?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Sensitive Chaos is not spiritual at all.

If you say so, but I doubt it from reading the blurbs on that book. Once again, what real science has he done? Or is this just woo?

So if the bone were a tube and water was running through, that water would have a vector map so to say. There are holes in bones and they are shaped like that vector map. Does that make any sense?

Nope.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Sensitive Chaos is not spiritual at all.



So if the bone were a tube and water was running through, that water would have a vector map so to say. There are holes in bones and they are shaped like that vector map. Does that make any sense?

No

Why don you try putting a bone under running
water, and see if you get a vector map.

is this supposed to have something to do with noahs
ark?
 
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