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Putin says Liberalism is Obsolete...Do You Agree?

Do you agree with Putin that liberalism is obsolete?


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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member

Diversity is inherently destructive. It make dealing with a population very difficult. One needs to unite the population under a common ideology. The ideology doesn't matter as much a the unity under it. Religion, patriotism, something. United we stand, divided we fall.

I don't think liberalism is the problem. Liberalism is freedom, freetrade, equality under the law. these are not bad things. Multiculturalism can even be dealt with if people can be otherwise united under a common ideology. All of these different ideologies with no common ground, that's the problem.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Diversity is inherently destructive. It make dealing with a population very difficult. One needs to unite the population under a common ideology. The ideology doesn't matter as much a the unity under it. Religion, patriotism, something. United we stand, divided we fall.

I don't think liberalism is the problem. Liberalism is freedom, freetrade, equality under the law. these are not bad things. Multiculturalism can even be dealt with if people can be otherwise united under a common ideology. All of these different ideologies with no common ground, that's the problem.
Unite the population under one common ideology. I am taking what you are saying seriously but I am going to use a cartoon to illustrate what being united under one common ideology or purpose is like:


Are you saying we should all bundle together under one ideology and/or purpose?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Putin is a realist. I'm sure he's keenly aware emotional based fantasy politics cannot be sustained.

Sooner or late right-wing emotional based fantasy politics will crumble and disappear. Hopefully sooner.

Diversity is inherently destructive. It make dealing with a population very difficult. One needs to unite the population under a common ideology. T

So you hate democracy and love China, Venezuela, Communism.

And even worse, to wipe out diversity is to personally threaten me because I'm part of diversity. That makes Nazi Germany part of your ideal since they had a final solution to the diversity problem.
 

Shadow Link

Active Member
Putin is a realist. I'm sure he's keenly aware emotional based fantasy politics cannot be sustained.
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
So you hate democracy and love China, Venezuela, Communism.

Please don't put words in my mouth.

And even worse, to wipe out diversity is to personally threaten me because I'm part of diversity. That makes Nazi Germany part of your ideal since they had a final solution to the diversity problem.

And, this is what happen when you put words in the mouth of other people. Any remarks after that become irrelevant.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Putin would know liberalism is obsolete, cause he experienced first hand the failures of liberal socialism.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I’d like to know which migrants to the west he feels are here to “kill, plunder and rape”, it certainly isn’t all migrant groups who are here to do that.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I’d like to know which migrants to the west he feels are here to “kill, plunder and rape”, it certainly isn’t all migrant groups who are here to do that.
I know. If he is so concerned about migrants maybe he should get his army out of Syria and stop making people migrate
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Diversity is inherently destructive. It make dealing with a population very difficult. One needs to unite the population under a common ideology. The ideology doesn't matter as much a the unity under it. Religion, patriotism, something. United we stand, divided we fall.

I don't think liberalism is the problem. Liberalism is freedom, freetrade, equality under the law. these are not bad things. Multiculturalism can even be dealt with if people can be otherwise united under a common ideology. All of these different ideologies with no common ground, that's the problem.
How about the common grounds being basic human rights and the golden rule-- don't treat others as you would not wish to be treated?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
How about the common grounds being basic human rights and the golden rule-- don't treat others as you would not wish to be treated?

I wouldn't want to be made to travel through an entire country, risk death, subject to rape, being preyed on by coyotes. Do you ever consider what happens to these folks before they even get to the border? Or is that not important?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I wouldn't want to be made to travel through an entire country, risk death, subject to rape, being preyed on by coyotes. Do you ever consider what happens to these folks before they even get to the border? Or is that not important?
Mexico while not a paradise, is a lot safer than where they are and Mexico offered to take them in.

They only come here because the Socialists are egging them to come in for all the freebies and having the people who live here pay for it all.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I wouldn't want to be made to travel through an entire country, risk death, subject to rape, being preyed on by coyotes. Do you ever consider what happens to these folks before they even get to the border? Or is that not important?
Have you noticed no other country is offering to take them other than Mexico?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I wouldn't want to be made to travel through an entire country, risk death, subject to rape, being preyed on by coyotes. Do you ever consider what happens to these folks before they even get to the border? Or is that not important?
Doesn't that highlight that the uniting ideal does exist here, that people would risk such things to get here?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
You're not seriously claiming that the USSR was socially liberal, are you? The USSR was no friend of LGBTs, multiculturalism, free speech/expression, etc.


Liberal socialism was widespread in 1990s Russia after the collapse of Communism.

"After the fall of communism, several new liberal parties were formed, but only one of them Yabloko (Yabloko – Rosiyskaya Demokraticheskaya Partiya, a member of Liberal International) succeeded in becoming a relevant force. This is a left-of-center liberal party. "

Liberalism in Russia - Wikipedia
 
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