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Quantum Spirituality

Matthew78

Matthew78

aspiring biblical scholar
Otherright said:
they are wanting to experiment with entanglement to cool computers, we are getting pretty close to a unified theory.
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Huh? Who is "they"? How would quantum entanglement "cool computers"? Sorry. I'm totally lost.

The Penrose-Hameroff theory of consciousness is quantum in nature and Auschelomb's work in cohesion proves cohesion in warm, wet environments. You'll need to look up Orch-OR.

As far as photosynthesis: Untangling the quantum entanglement behind photosynthesis
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Yes, I will need to. I will have to decline further comments until I have had a chance to read on the Penrose-Hameroff theory of consciousness and the link that you have provided for me, which I'm thankful for.
 
idav

idav

Being
Premium Member
Otherright said:
What I mean is, do you think some of the aspects we tend to believe we are observing in spirituality can be explained through quantum concepts, whether they genuinely exist or not?
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I think that delving into the deeper aspects of reality will no doubt enlighten us as to what the root of spirituality is or isn't. A book I've read which I'm going to need to read again is "The Universe In a Single Atom" by the Dalai Lama. I know your familiar with the subject of science and Buddhism. When reading the book I was pleasently surprised that the Dalai Lama is fairly well educated even in Quantum Mechanics. The fact that Buddhism can easily change with the times regarding science is especially important and Quantum Physics gets into the heart of the matter regarding the physical universe.

Here is link describing when the Dalai Lama was given a demonstration in a lab regarding some quantum experiments and gives some of his reactions.
Talking physics with the Dalai Lama - physicsworld.com

Here is an exerpt from the book I mentioned from the chapter "Emptiness, Relativity and Quantum Mechanics"
The paradoxical nature of reality revealed in both the Buddhist philosophy of emptiness and modern physics represents a profound challenge to the limits of human knowledge. The essence of the problem is epistemological: How do we conceptualize and understand reality coherently? Not only have Buddhist philosophers of emptiness developed an entire understanding of the world based on the rejection of the deeply ingrained temptation to treat reality as if it were composed of intrinsically real objective entities but they have also striven to live these insights in their day-to-day lives. The Buddhist solution to this seeming epistemological contradiction involves understanding reality in terms of the theory of two truths. Physics needs to develop an epistemology that will help resolve the seemingly unbridgeable gulf between the picture of reality in classical physics and everyday experience and that in their quantum mechanics counterpart. As for what an application of the two truths in physics might look like, I simply have no idea. At its root, the philosophical problem confronting physics in the wake of quantum mechanics is whether the very notion of reality-defined in terms of essentially real constituents of matter- is tenable. What the Buddhist philosophy of emptiness can offer is a coherent model of understanding reality that is non-essentialist. Whether this could prove useful only time will tell.
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Emptiness, Relativity & Quantum Physics (Dalai Lama)
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Otherright said:
Do you think that quantum sciences can help explain spirituality?
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Absolutely. There has been a long history of people, with a poor understanding of science, hijacking scientific words and concepts and using them incorrectly, and in the wrong context, to attempt to explain the mystical and supernatural. Quantum physics certainly hasn't escaped this pattern.

Now, whether these explanations have any merit, is doubtful.
 
Songbird

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
Kilgore Trout said:
Absolutely. There has been a long history of people, with a poor understanding of science, hijacking scientific words and concepts and using them incorrectly, and in the wrong context, to attempt to explain the mystical and supernatural. Quantum physics certainly hasn't escaped this pattern.

Now, whether these explanations have any merit, is doubtful.
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How about you drink a nice tall GLASS OF SHUT UP.
 
imaginaryme

imaginaryme

Active Member
Otherright said:
Do you think that quantum sciences can help explain spirituality? With features like non-locality, superpositions, entanglement. cohesion and so on, there exists at least a probable framework for explanations desired in spirituality.

Consciousness research is leaning toward quantum science. Biology as well, with the latest discoveries in photosynthesis being quantum in nature.

Does it all really lie at the quantum level?
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Is there a greater reality than the one where Jesus walks through that door?

All of us interpret reality according to scale. From in bed in the morning, the cage of the mind, the apartment, the jobsite, the local news; what we call "actual reality" is a symphony of scale. To think that we can just skip ahead to the smallest scale and "know" something - is naive.
 
Songbird

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
Kilgore Trout said:
Why is the sheep out of breath?
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I'm sitting at a coffee shop laughing my *** off, looking like I have some social disorder.

What don't you get about flaming livestock being thrown at you? Hatred can't be expressed more demonstratively than that.
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Songbird said:
I'm sitting at a coffee shop laughing my *** off, looking like I have some social disorder.

What don't you get about flaming livestock being thrown at you? Hatred can't be expressed more demonstratively than that.
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Hmm, that's part of the courting ritual where I come from.
 
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