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Question about demons

cataway

Well-Known Member
Any thoughts about Jude 1:6 ___________________
do you ever get the feeling some one just cant do the math ?
God did not allow the demons ,former angels ,to enjoy their former privileges in heaven but consigned them to figurative “pits of dense darkness,” cut off from all spiritual enlightenment. By pitting them selves against Jehovah 's arrangement they made them selves into what we call demons.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
for some odd reason the demons attache them selves to objects . Pictures as an example. one friend spoke of finding out that a relative was involved in the occult. they had pictures of that person. all the pictures were burned. however, the fire only burned up to the edge of the image of that person. more fire was used and only the eye's would not burn. Ouija boards are known to of had demons attached to them . reports of the boards, where people have tired to burn it , and the board would not burn ,or if it did burn some strange colors were being emitted in the flames .
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
No mention of demons there in Jude 1:6
I understand the verse refers to the sons of God (those who were following God's Way) who left the place they were dwelling and began to mingle themselves with the people who were dwelling elsewhere and who were out of the Way. By doing so, the sons of God (men who took upon themselves God's name) would fall into the idolatry practiced by those in the other land. God then brought the flood and wiped them all out.
I think Jude refers to those men as "angels" in the same way that angels are often called "men".

Thank you for your reply.
Since those 'angels' of Jude 1:6 were Not wiped out, then they are still alive ( darkeness until Judgement Day )
Then, as with Satan being destroyed by Jesus (Hebrews 2:14 B) so too will those fallen angels aka demons.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
some call this phenomenon 'egregores'.
Egregore - Theosophy Wiki
An egregore (pronounced egg’ gree gore) is a group thought-form.
It can be created either intentionally or unintentionally,
and becomes an autonomous entity with the power to influence.
A group with a common purpose like a family, a club, a political party, a church, or a country
can create an egregore, for better or worse depending upon the type of thought that created it.
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
Thank you for your reply.
Since those 'angels' of Jude 1:6 were Not wiped out, then they are still alive ( darkeness until Judgement Day )
Then, as with Satan being destroyed by Jesus (Hebrews 2:14 B) so too will those fallen angels aka demons.
The text says that all in whom was the breath of life died in the flood. Therefore, being chained in deep darkness of the abyss refers to being swallowed up by the flood waters. And they are kept in that grave until judgment day..

Again, the Bible NEVER relates demons as angels or angels as demons.

Jude says that those angels left their proper dwelling place. God's angels in heaven are not restricted to heaven but go about the earth obeying the commands of God. However, the men who were following the Way of God would be forbidden to mingle with those who were not because they would be corrupted by them. So, they were forbidden to leave their proper dwelling place but did anyway, just as Jude says.
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
and even Job1:6
The Satan of Job can be compared to the "brood of vipers" mentioned in the N.T. Whereas Job would be considered The Wheat of the Church, the brood of vipers are the Tares of the Church.

There most certainly was a place where men would go to present themselves before God in worship. Job, and the other sons of God(the wheat) would go to that place to worship. And just as today, the Tares(the satan) would also go to the same place. The Tares represent men who follow after their own lustful flesh as opposed to what is said about Job.

"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of his good store of treasure, and the evil man brings evil things out of his evil store of treasure.…"
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
There is no need for the imaginary demons invented by Christian sects because men are evil all by themselves.

The demons mentioned in the bible are simply personifications of all sorts of illnesses and diseases men encounter on their way to death. Sin came into the world by one man and death by sin. Which means that Adam's sin has brought death to all.
Anyone who knows the Scripture ought to know that sin and the flesh is personified. It is personified as the Devil and Satan because it was the lust of the flesh which caused the first sin and has brought death to everyone.
Therefore, demons are also a personification of what the lust of the flesh has caused.
That means that when a demon is cast out, the person who was suffering some form of malady, was cured of that illness.
For example, after Jesus had transferred the illnesses(demons) of a man into the swine the man was said to be restored to his right mind. The man was obviously suffering from some sort of mental illness which caused him to behave like he did. There are many such cases even today. However, advances in medicine have been able to make these people harmless to themselves and others.

Does medication cast out "fallen angels"?
 
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author leon xiv

New Member
It may be possible for them to attack you if:
1. You are an atheist because you have renounced Gods' protection.
2. They possess a body
3. They manifest during their planetary hour

If you are targeted by a single demon the assault will only be momentary. If there is more than one that may be a different problem.
 
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