Question for anti-trans monotheists

[Five Solas]

Sounds like you have criteria for what you think determines gender.

What are those criteria and how do they apply to God?

I just love the science of biology...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It was not a choice. It is a given.

"Given" in what way?

Are you just basing this on something like "God said it, therefore I believe it" (IOW, on God's gender identity)?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And in the next phrase you will most probably tell me you follow the science...

????


Did you actually read the rest of the conversation?
It sounds like you don't, because your reply couldn't be more off-point if you tried.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It was not a choice. It is a given.

How is it a given?

 

[Five Solas]

How is it a given?

That is how God revealed Himself and how it was recorded in history.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That is how God revealed Himself and how it was recorded in history.

Really? How do you know that God ever "revealed himself"? And isn't that a crime in most countries? I tried it the other day and people were not happy at all.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That is how God revealed Himself and how it was recorded in history.

So you do rely on God's own gender identity to determine his gender.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That is how God revealed Himself and how it was recorded in history.

You mean... you believe people who are repeating claims of even other people who claim that this happened.

Good. In that case, god is recognized as a male because god identifies himself as a male. It's just gender identity then. And nothing biological.

So if that is the standard, then Sam Bettens, who was born as Sarah Bettens without a penis, who identifies as male, is a male also.


Thanks for playing.

 

[Five Solas]

You mean... you believe people who are repeating claims of even other people who claim that this happened.

Good. In that case, god is recognized as a male because god identifies himself as a male. It's just gender identity then. And nothing biological.

So if that is the standard, then Sam Bettens, who was born as Sarah Bettens without a penis, who identifies as male, is a male also.


Thanks for playing.

I said what I said - the rest are your own confused views.

 

[Five Solas]

So you do rely on God's own gender identity to determine his gender.

Nothing like the rotten modern nonsense, no. There is a difference between identify and reveal. Find a dictionary....

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Nothing like the rotten modern nonsense, no. There is a difference between identify and reveal. Find a dictionary....

So you think God revealed his gender, and his gender is based on something other than his identity?

What do you think it's based on, then?

Come on. You can do it.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I said what I said - the rest are your own confused views.

I just repeated what you said.

You accept god as male because god identified himself as male.
That's pure gender identity.

It's not determined by chromosomes, sexual organs, ...
It's just determined by how this entity identifies himself.

Right?

So how is that not exactly what I said?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Nothing like the rotten modern nonsense, no. There is a difference between identify and reveal. Find a dictionary....

You literally said in your very own post that god identified himself as male in his "revelation".

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

There is a difference between identify and reveal.

Did god flash his penis or a DNA test?
Or was the revelation rather him identifying himself as male?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Did god flash his penis or a DNA test?
Or was the revelation rather him identifying himself as male?

God has a big old tally whacker (or is that one word?). That is why they call him "God".

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

For any and all purposes you can call her anything you want to call her. Someone with female organs who bears children is a female.

Male seahorses bear their kids?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Male seahorses bear their kids?

OK. Any HUMAN who has female organs and bears children is a female.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

OK. Any HUMAN who has female organs and bears children is a female.

Sam Bettens no longer has female organs and no longer can bear children.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

OK. Any HUMAN who has female organs and bears children is a female.

If you need a special definition of "female" for humans to make your approach work, this is a good sign that your approach doesn't actually work.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Sam Bettens no longer has female organs and no longer can bear children.

Many women have cancer and have their organs removed and can no longer have children. Does that make them males?