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Question for Atheists: about your view of the world

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Asking Mball to prove we invented fairness and justice, is asking to prove a negative? I didn't know that...
I didn't ask to prove there is no justice or fairness, which would be asking to prove a negative.
So someone please tell me is asking Mball to prove we invented fairness and justice asking to prove a negative?

My problem with everyone asserting we invented it iron clad end of discussion, is that is so elementary to say such a thing without explanation, which is what I asked Mball for.
If there is no good explanation other than it is just what we believe, than there should be room to expand the knowledge of the subject.

1) You asked us what we thought, and we think justice isn't an inherent quality of the universe.

2) It seems pretty obvious to me that justice is just a human construct, and that it has no meaning without intelligent beings like us.
 

kai

ragamuffin
If you were asked, and you are right now, do you feel the natural world or all that you know and experience operates on a fundamental that nothing is particularly fair. In other words the world is naturally an unjust place.

Could you please comment? Thanks...

theres no such thing as fair or unfair just the savage garden.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The universe is neither just or unjust. It just is.

It operates under mathematical laws. If a planet happens to be in the way of an asteroid, then so be it, and countless creatures will suffer and die. On the other hand, if conditions are right, then beautiful flowers will blossom in a field. The universe is "fair" in the sense that every being is subject to the same physical laws, but "unfair" in the sense that statistically, some will be luckier than others. One child will be born healthy in a rich and loving environment, and grow up to lead a fairly happy life. Another child might be born in a poor area with a birth defect and die of starvation or illness.

Things only become absurd when humans expect something from the universe that it is not in a position to offer.
 
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