Question for Jehovah's Witnesses about hell

[Frank Goad]

Can you explain why hell is mentioned twice?Once in the parable of lazarus and the rich man?In luke 16:19-31?And once in the book of Revelation 20:13?Like they are real places?

 

[Nimos]

Can you explain why hades is mentioned twice?Once in the parable of lazarus and the rich man?In luke 16:19-31?And once in the book of Revelation 20:13?Like they are real places?

I don't see hades mentioned anywhere?

 

[Frank Goad]

I don't see hades mentioned anywhere?

My bad.I must of looked up the wrong translation.I guess I should have asked my question about the two times hell is used.And not hades.

 

[Eyes to See]

Hades is the common grave. It is translated in some translations as hell. When a person dies the Bible says the go to the grave, or Hades, or Hell, where they are resting in sleep awaiting a resurrection. That passage you quoted in Revelation tells us that Hell (Hades, or the Grave) will be thrown into the lake of fire which means the second death. So hell at the end of the 1,000 year reign will be done away with. It will cease to exist. It is a place where humans are at right now awaiting God's call back to life. In the future there will be no need for a resting place for the dead because there will be no more dying.

 

[Triumph]

I don't see hades mentioned anywhere?

Glad you see the Lazarus story is a parable. I think Hades is Paradise, the grave, where people feel nothing as they have died releasing their biological form and are then free of all pain. Jesus and the thief were both going to die that day so both would be in Paradise released from the agony on the stake/cross.
The Bible never states that Paradise is Heaven. Jesus did say that day that the thief would be with him in Paradise. The thief on the cross that never repented of his crimes or profess any love of God, is (I believe) not forgiven by God. The thief just said that he did believe that Jesus was the son of his God. Being remembered in a kingdom the thief did not believe existed as he was an unrepentant, unbaptized sinner that did not even know what God Jesus worshiped as he harassed Jesus for dying for his religious beliefs is meaningless.
What would Jesus remember of that thief? That he never asked to be a disciple because he was atheist, that he did not have respect for people he stole from breaking laws as a thief, that he never said he wanted to be a believer in religion, and that he had complete distain for the God of Jesus and Jesus. The thief said he would believe in the God of Jesus if Jesus was removed alive from the cross. The thief never recanted that belief. Jesus said all that call him Lord are not saved. There are requirements by God to be saved and the thief does not qualify on any point. The thief died an unsaved sinner, Jesus can forgive his Earthly sin of theft and his cruel, ignorant harassment, but only God can give him eternal life and there is no evidence that God forgives the unrepentant that know not what they do. The thief never repented for any of his sins.
Jesus did not go to heaven that day as he was in the grave for 3 days before he returned to life. Then he had his mission to teach he has been resurrected. One must believe in the resurrection. Then he ascended to his Father in heaven, and he did not leave a corpse behind. Jesus left Earth in a physical body (and the thief was not with him) and will return to Earth in the future in a physical body.

 

[Bree]

Can you explain why hell is mentioned twice?Once in the parable of lazarus and the rich man?In luke 16:19-31?And once in the book of Revelation 20:13?Like they are real places?

is death a real 'place'?

"the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them"