MurphtheSurf
Active Member
What do you do to satisfy your spiritual needs?
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Question for the God Bashers
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Engyo
Prince of Dorkness!
Who's a god basher? Does "not believing in" qualify as bashing?
If so, Buddhist practice satisfies my spiritual needs extremely well.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
As asked before, who are the God bashers?
as a secular man I satisfy my spiritual needs intellectually and physically, without mindless rituals and without worship.
MurphtheSurf
Active Member
There are those who do not believe. That is fine. There are those that take that disbelief to another level and attack everything they think they see about God. None of you can sit there and tell me you can't look at some of these thread and not see God bashing.
So far I have seen one answer to the question. The rest, defensiveness.
So far I have seen one answer to the question. The rest, defensiveness.
Morn'n Murph! Bashing God is only OK....bashing his followers is much more satisfying, especially those pompously pious & sanctimonious Cerberus types.
But ultimately, enjoying life & pursuing goals is even better.
MurphtheSurf
Active Member
Something to contemplate that goes beyond the hopeless world conditions we live in.
Do you have such thoughts?
MurphtheSurf
Active Member
Nice to hear from you. I'll take that as the second answer.
BTW, Doc is standing at the precipice of exile as we speak.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Satisfying my needs is digesting all the 'hopeless world conditions' that I can. keeping myself in the game, maintaining interest in current events and avoiding escapism are all crucial in keeping a healthy check of one's needs. a person needs are surprisingly very basic, and beyond a fantastic spiritual realm, for the most part.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
I'm not sure if I qualify to you as a "god-basher" but I don't satisfy any spiritual needs through an external avatar or any other form of superstitious thinking. I mediate on the illusive nature of the things of thought. In particular I meditate on the illusion my own self-identity, which I find eases existential angst and its attendant feelings of guilt and fear.
Alan Watts, in his usually eloquent style, explained it well:
Alan Watts, in his usually eloquent style, explained it well:
Alan Watts said:
averageJOE
zombie
Kickboxing, ju-jitsu, video games, and beer.
Twig pentagram
High Priest
I'm not a God basher, but I don't have spiritual needs.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I do whatever pleases me. For example, for the last several weeks I have been "breaking new ground" quite literally, by carving paths out of the forest floor around where I live. I am deeply intrigued at the symbolic nature of being a "trail blazer" and that others can walk on a path, I have created. In many ways, that is what the testament of my life will be.
Define god bashing.
Personally I satisfy my spiritual needs much like christians do, by prayer and ritual. I just don't pray or hold rituals to honor the same god they do. Course, I also don't cut any slack or hold any sympathy for christians regarding the attempts to enforce their "morals" and religious trappings on either me or the public square. Perhaps that is your "god bashing?"
You might live in hopeless world conditions, I don't! I live in very pleasant rural area of North Wales. I have a good supportive family, and I think myself fortunate. Having done the 'saved by Jesus' bit as a child and found it an unhappy experience, I am happy not to have that sort of spirituality anymore.
Define spiritual.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
It would help if you'd give an example or two of "god-bashing". I have a feeling you are using much different criteria than I am to determine what qualifies as that. Especially considering your characterizing of the previous comments as "defensiveness". I don't bash God, but I do criticize some aspects of religion and different god-concepts. I don't really have any spiritual needs, though.
I don't think the world is hopeless at all, it's that kind of mentality that retards progress. And if you think the world is hopeless, why not walk blindly into traffic, to get to your "paradise" faster?
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
If you see anything that counts as this:
please report it so the staff may take care of it.
I mention that because anything else would be normal debate, which in many ways is actually productive to establishing a relationship with "God." I've found that questioning this relationship with the Universe that we call "God" forces a person to confront many of the existential dilemmas that one needs "God" to solve. By confronting these problems, we may find that they are only problems because we've lost touch with our true natures.
Kierkegaard may have been satisfied to jump from the precipice, but I'd rather use the stairs that are already there--but only sometimes.
I have been pleasantly surprised since I joined this forum yesterday by the civilised atmosphere, even when we strongly disagree about a topic. I have just cancelled my membership of another religious forum where there was unpleasant personal abuse, mainly from fundamentalist Christians, if their version of God was criticised. I think is fair to challenge others about their stance on matters of faith, but not to indulge in personal abuse.