Question to people you have talked to about your religion

[Frank Goad]

Have you ever talked to someone who was into astral projection or lucid dreaming?About your religion?What did you come away with after you talked to them?I have talked to people about astral projection and lucid dreaming.They said it sounds cool.But not something they wanted to do.

 

[The Hammer]

Have you ever talked to someone who was into astral projection or lucid dreaming?About your religion?What did you come away with after you talked to them?

Have I ever talked to someone about who was into astral projection, about my religion? Is that what you are asking?

 

[Frank Goad]

Have I ever talked to someone about who was into astral projection, about my religion? Is that what you are asking?

Yes.

 

[Lain]

Have you ever talked to someone who was into astral projection or lucid dreaming?About your religion?What did you come away with after you talked to them?

I think I have. I mainly came away with a weird mix of disgust, pity, and intrigue, not because of astral projection or lucid dreaming though, but because of what I see as their otherwise depraved theology and atrophied relationship with God who is Father.

 

[The Hammer]

Yes.

I mean.

Haven't we spoken on here before?

Seems like a yes then, eh?

 

[The Hammer]

I think I have. I mainly came away with a weird mix of disgust, pity, and intrigue, not because of astral projection or lucid dreaming though, but because of what I see as their otherwise depraved theology and atrophied relationship with God who is Father.

What was wrong with it/them?

Edit: what is depraved theology? Were they advocating stoning, rape, and murder?

 

[Lain]

What was wrong with it/them?

Edit: what is depraved theology? Were they advocating stoning, rape, and murder?

The first one was half-Jewish and half something else (with no connection to the following) and had somehow (or at least claimed to be) ordained as a priestess in my ethnic ancestral religion, and moreover seemed to know little about it. This was intriguing and slightly accounted for the feeling of disgust. Moreover she thought of God as female and called a certain Gnostic idea of God "rapey," both of which added to outright disgust from me. And to top it all off she mixed said ancestral religion with Buddhism, making the whole thing a clown show in my opinion.

The second one spoke of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as if it was some deity among equals in a pantheon (like the other gods, commonly called spirits and Saints, whose existence I acknowledge and some of whom I venerate but the God of AIJ is above all of them and the evil gods), which disgusted me. And then moreover applied terms of domestic violence to the Lord's actions which was further off-putting, in the context of her own suffering which while immense, she existed. The latter thing increased pity. She also was intriguing because she was an astrologer and finally explained some details of my chart for free, which was immensely hilarious (I have an interesting 8th house).

Depraved theology to me is theology that I can only describe as "metaphysically twisted and incomprehensible," it evokes a sense of horror like if a shirt became animated and began speaking coherent language and moving towards you, or if every straight thing you touched began bending and curving, or like the presence of someone in your house but you can never find them and no one should be there. Also it is incoherent to me fundamentally and evades all possible attempts to understand it. Speaking of God as coded "female" towards creation is one of the things that does this for me. The Jewish idea of God making creation out of His "body" or "substance" is another thing that does that for me. A theology I disagree with but can understand as I learn about it (like Islam or some presentations of Hinduism or some concepts of paganism or also Neoplatonism) does not count as "depraved" to me, but occasionally I come across a certain idea of God that disturbs me to my bones to even hear spoken and the feeling goes far beyond "disagreement." I may even feel that it is a diabolical idea. Perhaps it's just a personal thing.

 

[The Hammer]

The first one was half-Jewish and half something else (with no connection to the following) and had somehow (or at least claimed to be) ordained as a priestess in my ethnic ancestral religion, and moreover seemed to know little about it. This was intriguing and slightly accounted for the feeling of disgust. Moreover she thought of God as female and called a certain Gnostic idea of God "rapey," both of which added to outright disgust from me. And to top it all off she mixed said ancestral religion with Buddhism, making the whole thing a clown show in my opinion.

The second one spoke of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as if it was some deity among equals in a pantheon (like the other gods, commonly called spirits and Saints, whose existence I acknowledge and some of whom I venerate but the God of AIJ is above all of them and the evil gods), which disgusted me. And then moreover applied terms of domestic violence to the Lord's actions which was further off-putting, in the context of her own suffering which while immense, she existed. The latter thing increased pity. She also was intriguing because she was an astrologer and finally explained some details of my chart for free, which was immensely hilarious (I have an interesting 8th house).

Depraved theology to me is theology that I can only describe as "metaphysically twisted and incomprehensible," it evokes a sense of horror like if a shirt became animated and began speaking coherent language and moving towards you, or if every straight thing you touched began bending and curving, or like the presence of someone in your house but you can never find them and no one should be there. Also it is incoherent to me fundamentally and evades all possible attempts to understand it. Speaking of God as coded "female" towards creation is one of the things that does this for me. The Jewish idea of God making creation out of His "body" or "substance" is another thing that does that for me. A theology I disagree with but can understand as I learn about it (like Islam or some presentations of Hinduism or some concepts of paganism or also Neoplatonism) does not count as "depraved" to me, but occasionally I come across a certain idea of God that disturbs me to my bones to even hear spoken and the feeling goes far beyond "disagreement." I may even feel that it is a diabolical idea. Perhaps it's just a personal thing.

I see.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Have you ever talked to someone who was into astral projection or lucid dreaming?About your religion?What did you come away with after you talked to them?I have talked to people about astral projection and lucid dreaming.They said it sounds cool.But not something they wanted to do.

Only with you Frank, other than that it does not cross my mind to speak with other people from any religion about OBE or Astral travel.

 

[syo]

Have you ever talked to someone who was into astral projection or lucid dreaming?About your religion?What did you come away with after you talked to them?

Yup! And it was great!