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Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Why are religious forums filled with athiests trying to convince people not to believe in God, first because their mission is practically impossible because few believers will change to athiesm, second because what's the point when they could be on other forums chatting about things they do believe in?

It's always been a mystery to me why athiests spend so much time and energy on religious forums when they could be doing other things like ........ :beach: :grill::canoe: :disco: :guitar1: :fishing:
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
It depends on the person, I guess. Learning is one. Discussion is another.

But it does feel like a few people are here just to project their own insecurities and be butthurt against people who dare to believe differently to themselves. Unfortunately there are some people who don't know the meaning of civility.

There's always the Theists Only section. That's a good place to be, IMO. It's not as active as I feel it should be.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why are religious forums filled with athiests trying to convince people not to believe in God, first because their mission is practically impossible because few believers will change to athiesm, second because what's the point when they could be on other forums chatting about things they do believe in?

It's always been a mystery to me why athiests spend so much time and energy on religious forums when they could be doing other things like ........ :beach: :grill::canoe: :disco: :guitar1: :fishing:
I'm not here to convert you from your religion.
But I do have a beef with you.
You've been here long enuf to have an avatar.
I demand that you use one!
A suggestion.....
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Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Why are religious forums filled with athiests trying to convince people not to believe in God, first because their mission is practically impossible because few believers will change to athiesm, second because what's the point when they could be on other forums chatting about things they do believe in?

It's always been a mystery to me why athiests spend so much time and energy on religious forums when they could be doing other things like ........ :beach: :grill::canoe: :disco: :guitar1: :fishing:

Religion is a substantial factor in today's culture. Anyone breathing has a stake in it.

You also don't seem to understand the value religion holds outside of belief.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I just have some time on my hands and interacting with people from all over the world is more interesting than watching TV. I have no intention to convert anyone to atheism. But if there is a question, I answer it according to my views.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Why are religious forums filled with athiests trying to convince people not to believe in God, first because their mission is practically impossible because few believers will change to athiesm, second because what's the point when they could be on other forums chatting about things they do believe in?

It's always been a mystery to me why athiests spend so much time and energy on religious forums when they could be doing other things like ........ :beach: :grill::canoe: :disco: :guitar1: :fishing:

I don't canoe or fish...but the rest of that stuff is me all over!
and yes I believe in God.
 

FunctionalAtheist

Hammer of Reason
Why are religious forums filled with athiests trying to convince people not to believe in God, first because their mission is practically impossible because few believers will change to athiesm, second because what's the point when they could be on other forums chatting about things they do believe in?

It's always been a mystery to me why athiests spend so much time and energy on religious forums when they could be doing other things like ........ :beach: :grill::canoe: :disco: :guitar1: :fishing:

Hem, I've never had someone knock on my door and try to convince me that there is no god. Yet on a monthly basis people knock on my door and want to share the word with me. Some tell me I'm going to end up in hell. Some tell me they will pray for. Some tell they are sure that sooner or later god will bless me with his knowledge.

It's always amazed me how 'believers' get offended when non-believers express their opinion. The word hypocrite enters my mind!
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
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There's always the Theists Only section. That's a good place to be, IMO. It's not as active as I feel it should be.



And it never will be, because people want true debate, and stimulation, brought about by debate and rebuttal, between real, intelligent, opposing sides.




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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
This a forum to discuss religion. Not a forum for just religious believers to have fellowship with each other. Some of the Abrahamics on here try to convert people.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
Without the atheists who would I have to debate or make fun of? Don't you get it? God put atheists on this earth for our amusement. I think we should appreciate them.
 

steeltoes

Junior member
In my opinion it's not about God existing or not, it's about the debate for the sake of debate. At least it is for me since I don't care whether God exists or not. Perhaps some people really do care, they take God very seriously, as if it matters. I don't know what to say about that.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
In my opinion it's not about God existing or not, it's about the debate for the sake of debate. At least it is for me since I don't care whether God exists or not. Perhaps some people really do care, they take God very seriously, as if it matters. I don't know what to say about that.

And without commitment one way or the other.....you really don't know what to say about it.

And the atheists do have their own agenda.
Ironically, it's similar in means and methods as the believer.

They want to be sure.
They want to be sure there's no One to answer to.
Nothing Greater than themselves.

The believers are equally self centered.
They want that God of mercy and heaven.

I think they are both wrong.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I love atheists and agnostics as much as any flavor of theist and more than some. I don't care what any of you think or believe about Gods, afterlife, angels, pixies, etc. If you are kind, open-minded, honest, genuine, intelligent, and more - it matters more to me. If you actually dare to challenge all concepts and live like a real man or woman, rather than a robot, subject, toddler - matters more to me.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Mass atheism is very different as it has not been common in centuries past. Atheism on this scale is new but more importantly it is the theological standpoint everybody hates. So it is Atheists vs 90% of the world so it is natural for Atheists to be more aggressive. The issue though is that a lot of Atheists arguing do not like being on a lower debating position so many Atheists are atheists in a religious manner and this promotes the same issues with religion obviously. Atheism is a negative to a claim not a positive refuting a positive.

It is why I sort of recommend judging what sort of atheist you are debating since a lot of it can end in circle talk and very awkward presuppositionalist arguments. Atheism is a very rational claim to make but treating it in a religious manner is bad. I do not even treat my own religion in a religious manner and purely use it on an etymological scale.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why are religious forums filled with athiests trying to convince people not to believe in God, first because their mission is practically impossible because few believers will change to athiesm,

I have no doubt that a lot of what you describe as atheists trying to change believers to atheism is actually atheists just criticizing aspects of different religions and beliefs about god(s) that they personally disagree with or find fault in (much the same way as theists do with concepts they disagree with or find fault in).

That said, what you described does exist, whether when it's done in a good spirit and respectfully or not. The mission in that case isn't really in any sense impossible, and saying that few believers will change to atheism is basically just an avoidance of reality, as far as i see it. Not that a lot of people would change their beliefs on account of frequenting a forum, but it happens (in all directions), and it can be just a step or a portion of a journey to a change rather than the sole reason responsible.

Now, all the above said, at least when it comes to this forum, what you described would actually most likely constitute a rule violation. :D

what's the point when they could be on other forums chatting about things they do believe in?

You're misunderstanding the premise. Assuming you're at least partially talking about this forum, it isn't a forum for promoting (or exclusive discussion of) certain brands of theism or theism in general. It's a forum for discussion and debate of different world views, including atheism itself as a world view. There's specifically a DIR called "Non-Theistic/Non-Religious Beliefs DIR", even, and a "Non-theism" sub-forum under Theological concepts. In addition, there are atheists who embrace religious beliefs, and most atheists are from a religious background.

It's always been a mystery to me why athiests spend so much time and energy on religious forums when they could be doing other things like ........

Whether or not someone believes in god(s) has little to do with the fact that religion and specifically belief in god are serious cultural forces in most places around the world today. They're relevant, rich and interesting subjects to discuss and more importantly, they relate to social forces that can affect people's lives (atheist or not) in manners ranging from being proselytized to, to being under threat of facing consequences for holding a specific belief.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
As a theist I am not here to convert any atheist neither would I want to if I could, learn and understand their position, yes I am here for that, poke them with a stick and see how they react, absolutely!

Besides, I can respect the atheists, agnostics and even igtheists...it's just the Buddhist I can't stand.


j/k
 

Awkward Fingers

Omphaloskeptic
Where is the line between someone explaining an opinion they hold that you don't, and someone trying to talk you into understanding their opinion by explaining it to you, and someone trying to convince you to see things their way.
It seems like often the same attempt could be seem as any of the three, based only off how the person reviving the explanation choose to perceive it.
 
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