Don't die laughing while you're fasting:
Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
And here it is:
Brotherly advice: don't talk too much about what you don't know.
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Don't die laughing while you're fasting:
Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
And here it is:
Brotherly advice: don't talk too much about what you don't know.
i watched till around 1:10
i watched Zaglool's word
he was talking about the verse he had foud,what's wrong about that?
I don't want to get into meaningless discussions.
Anyway have you heard when Z said الكتاب المقدس using ك instead of ق . Of course you know the meaning in arabic.
But above all, he's a liar.
Don't die laughing while you're fasting:
Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
And here it is:
Brotherly advice: don't talk too much about what you don't know.
ok,you are right then
i searched it on sdl and it was (darkness)
that's why i thought it's a name
where is this valley by the way?
but i'm still dieing laughing because this man looks mindless ignorate
he even couldn't convince convince me at all
Watch the rest of the episode.
By the way, have a nice breakfast.
no i didn't understand,which minute?
just believe it,we don't lie,never
he just got it wrong
I remember him showing it on google earth or something like that. It was months ago so I don't remember. You look for it.
I don't accuse you of lying at all. You're just copying what you're being told, with good intention from your point of view. But I know some of your unfaithful scholars are lying to you. Z's got tons of lies apart from this one.
no,he has tons of things which you consider it lies
he was wrong here and you would be wrong there and like that,although i don't like somebody to say anything till it's for sure
by the way i'm not copying,i get help from anybody and i search by myself too
i feel that you are copying more than me lol
anyway nothing bad in copying as long as you know what you are copying and every things should be discussed no prloblem
so tell me
is jesus the son of god,and where does the bible say that?
lol
What am I copying? If you fell so, than that's flattering.
That's funny. A simple search would show you.
But you're asking the wrong question
As an advice, I think you should study more you religion, and read the tafsears and hadiths. Like those couple of lies that you were told and brought here, you will find tons of other lies being told to you by Z and many others. Check the site that I gave you. http://islamexplained.com/
Look at al hayat channel, and see what's being said about islam.
Check the episodes of Fr. Zakaraya Botros, and see for yourself if he's lying or not. Install paltalk, if you don't already have it, and enter religious chat rooms to see what's being said there about Islam. You'll find tons of interesting points and you'll see Islamic references supporting the claims. You'll find out a lot of things that you never heard of in islam. Before checking other people's religion, and seeking what you are told are mistakes, you should know your religion well, and see accusations to it.
I myself check tons of accusations to my belief from many different parties and research them all.
Good luck and happy ramadan or eid or whatever is now.
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What am I copying? If you fell so, than that's flattering.
That's funny. A simple search would show you.
But you're asking the wrong question
As an advice, I think you should study more you religion, and read the tafsears and hadiths. Like those couple of lies that you were told and brought here, you will find tons of other lies being told to you by Z and many others. Check the site that I gave you. http://islamexplained.com/
Look at al hayat channel, and see what's being said about islam.
Check the episodes of Fr. Zakaraya Botros, and see for yourself if he's lying or not. Install paltalk, if you don't already have it, and enter religious chat rooms to see what's being said there about Islam. You'll find tons of interesting points and you'll see Islamic references supporting the claims. You'll find out a lot of things that you never heard of in islam. Before checking other people's religion, and seeking what you are told are mistakes, you should know your religion well, and see accusations to it.
I myself check tons of accusations to my belief from many different parties and research them all.
Good luck and happy ramadan or eid or whatever is now.
hahahahahah,Zachria Botros?!!!!!
ok ok,all those channels and sites i know them all.they are all some pathetic fools that try to keep any Egyptian christian without mind,lol,even the video you sent,i understood nothing fron his stupidity,while when you told me i got it
anyway seems you don't like to discuss,so thanks for your good words,and good luck for you too
Sometimes truth hurts.
I hope you say this about them out of your own research on their claims, not out of hatred or whatever. They show everything with proof from islamic literature. Maybe you're the one who is kept without ... following some liars.
I've shown you today a lie by Didat and a lie by Z. Probably 2 of your biggest scholars, or so they claim. Even if you say innocent mistakes. They are public scholars that write books and make tv shows, they should be able to do better research than a humble person like me. I see them as lies.
To me if someone tells me a lie, then any other thing he says is at question.
I like discussion, but see, you're speaking about hebrew words and looking them up and can't look for a simple arabic word in the bible.
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
this is the same with christianity...there are some christians who dont believe that Satan is a real entity. They say that Satan is merely the evil inside each of us and they use a couple of scriptures to support that claim. That is what trinitarians do with the scriptures too. It is no different. And just as you say that muslims who teach differently are not representing Islam, so do we. Those who teach things that are not in harmony with scripture are not representing christianity.
this is the big mistakes muslims make regarding the bible....there is only one bible. The different translations are made because there are many different scholars who are translators...there is not just one publisher who translates the bible for everyone. This is exactly the same with the Quran. There are different translations of the Quran made by different translators, but the Quran is still the Quran. It is exactly the same iwth the bible. The original language manuscripts are the basis of the translations, but those manuscripts do not change.
and this is because there are many different translators. But those translations do not change the Holy Bible...it never changes. When copies of the holy bible were made, they made 'copies' of the manuscripts or scrolls....word for word in the same language. That is why we still have original language manuscripts from which to create translations from.
but you must not confuse the difference between a translation and a copy.
Translations means to change from one language to another. This is how little mistakes can creep into a tranlsation. But the original manuscript of the bible hasnt changed just because someone makes a translation of it.
Copy is a direct copy of the greek/hebrew manuscripts, made into the same greek/hebrew with the same punctuation marks and the same words. Its like making a copy of the Quran in Arabic language. You dont have to change anything, you simply duplicate what is written in the original.
its not different really. Christian scholars interpret what they read and they like to get all philosphical about it....and christians of the past were highly influenced by the philosophers which is why they started teaching things that were not in the bible...things such as hellfire and immortal souls etc...these things are not a part of the holy bible, yet they still teach it.
Mohammed believed that Christians in his day were teaching things that were not in the bible and he was 100% correct. But that does not mean that the Holy Bible is wrong....it means that the people who teach it are wrong just as if a muslim would teach something that the Quran does not say, that muslim would be wrong but not the quran..
unfortunately, muslims have been told over and over that it is Gods Holy Bible that is wrong and that is just not the case. :no:
Sometimes truth hurts.
I hope you say this about them out of your own research on their claims, not out of hatred or whatever. They show everything with proof from islamic literature. Maybe you're the one who is kept without ... following some liars.
I've shown you today a lie by Didat and a lie by Z. Probably 2 of your biggest scholars, or so they claim. Even if you say innocent mistakes. They are public scholars that write books and make tv shows, they should be able to do better research than a humble person like me. I see them as lies.
To me if someone tells me a lie, then any other thing he says is at question.
I like discussion, but see, you're speaking about hebrew words and looking them up and can't look for a simple arabic word in the bible.
Deedat?!,again!,i showed you it's very clear,just insisting to deny is up to you but it doesn't make it a truth,Z isn't from our biggest scholar although i like him,and saying something not true isn't something to consider somebody liar,what arabic word do you mean??!,by the way i was asking you about the bible seeking to know why christians differ,that's because i'm not like you,you can't know something from it's enemy,just keep listening to Botros (lol i can't say his name without laughing) and you will not get anything new...
Bismillah
Submit
This is completely wrong. The word of God was copied verbatim in Arabic and is impossible to replicate in any other language. Translations always change the words their etymological histories are completely lost. There is a huge emphasis that there is the Qur'an in Arabic and then there are translations. Once reading the Arabic version Muslims have to be in a state of purity not so for those translations.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
ok,
so why can the Quran be read in english then?
Do you understand the difference between a 'translation' and a 'copy' ???
i know,but it must be translated for thier languages too,but still the arabic version is available for everybody to invoke to it,and even the translations don't change the meaning,while the bible has many versions
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Scripture is still written in different literary genres. Wisdom literature reads differently than narrative and so on. It's through the element of Scripture with human origin that we know the rules of how to read God's word. Remember "inspired" is not the same as "dictated".
but almost 90% of christians believe different things from what you told me,maybe more than that,and they claim that they have verses say that,forexample
He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God
you believe that they are not following Jesus?
and there is a main question that i can't stop asking it,i saw many chrisitan priests who left christianity saying that bible has totally changed,they would never say that if it's not true!
find that out here
AL-MAEDA
46:And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).
AL-MAEDA
59:
Say: O People of the Scripture! Do ye blame us for aught else than that we believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed aforetime, and because most of you are evil-livers?
AL-ANKABOOT
46:And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam).
and much more about bible as a book from god,but ofcourse the original one
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
yes, and just as the original arabic language Quran is available for everyone, so is the original greek and hebrew language manuscripts...and some are a lot older then the quran.
And when the translators translate, just like the Quran, they dont change the meaning. They convert from the hebrew/greek meaning into whatever language they are translating it to....but they translate what they read, so they are not changing the meaning. The 'version' is simply an addage to identify the translators. For example, the 'king james version' identifies who authorized that particular translation, King James was a real king from the 16th century. But it is not to any different to the original manuscripts of the hebrew and greek.
No one deliberately prints a new set of scriptures which are something different to the original, no, you are terribly mislead in this regard. The way the meaning gets changed is when someone comes along and reads a passage and they 'INTERPRET' that passage to mean something else.
So now you must realise the difference between 'translation' and 'interpretation'
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
Here is a perfect example of how they 'interpret' wrongly and change the meaning. Look at the verse in red you posted. It says about Jesus that he is the 'Son of God' ...just like other angels are called 'sons of God' in the bible.
But you know that they say Jesus is 'God Almighty'... .they actually read scriptures that tell them Jesus is only a 'Son' of God... .but they teach that Jesus is God...not the Son of God. Do you see what I mean about how they interpret scripture. They cant even stick to what the scriptures tell them, so they are not faithful or truthful to the bible.
The bible says one thing but they they teach something different.
when the dead sea scrolls were found and examined, they were found to be exactly the same as the books of the bible we have now. The dead sea scrolls are dated to the 2nd/3rd century BCE. So anyone who thinks the bible has changed is kidding themselves.
What many have come to realise is that the teachings of the church dont match the teachings found in the bible... .and I can assure you that your own teachings dont match the teachings of the bible too. If they have left, it is not because the bible is wrong...it is because what they learn in seminary school has nothing to do with the bible whatsoever and they are conflicted. The bible says one thing but they have to teach something else in church.
About the trinity, many priests will tell their church's that it is a great mystery...they cant explain it from the bible because it is not there. Perhaps they have come to realise the same thing that Mohammad realized...the church is not true to the Holy Bible and they are teaching falsehoods.