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Questions that evolutionists and billions of years proponents cannot answer but disprove their theories.

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Nobody has shown that.

That is incorrect.

Maybe it is today (or not), but that was not always the case. Lightspeed is only a limit to particles moving through space, not to the rate space expands.

OK, whatever that means. But why bother to post it?

No I don't, but I've lost interest in your answer after that. Move on. It doesn't matter to me what you meant any more than it matters to you to be understood.

Nice argument. I stand defeated and humiliated.

Faith cannot provide any answers. Never has, never will.
Actually, if you believe the redshift con job, the universe has been expanding a lot less than the speed of light for billions of years. And even the most distant galaxies are expanding less than the sped of light and they were the earliest.

It is a fail on the Big Bang model. The size of the universe is supposedly 94 billion light years and the universe is less than 14 billion years. The universe is expanding at a rate less the speed of light. The space itself is expanding lesse that the speed of light. How could the universe be 7x larger in light years than its age. In 13.7 billion years it should have expanded less than 13.7 billion light years Vs 94 billion light years.

In fact, many are now finding irrefutable proof that the redshift theory is false, that the universe is not expanding at all, and that there was no Big Bang.

Big Bang is dead.

Redshift anomalies and other things that invalidate the Big Bang expansion

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ft_Data_and_the_Myth_of_Cosmological_Distance
Click on see the full text.

Anomalies in the count of low red shift quasars.

Anomalies in the Counts of Low Redshift Quasars

https://assa.saao.ac.za/wp-content/...liffe-A-review-of-anomalous-redshift-data.pdf

Redshift Anomalies and the Big Bang – Anthony Beckett

Is a new anomaly affecting the entire Universe?

Galaxies and the Universe - Alternate Approaches and the Redshift Controversy

These two shows that today’s age estimate is a farce. The very exact number may be off by 100%. Of course if 100% is the error, then -100% puts it at about 6000 years.

'Tired light' might make the universe twice as old as we thought

Scientists have revisited the disproven light ageing hypothesis, which suggests the universe has been around for almost 27 billion years

More problems with the Big Bang Theory and the redshift explanation.

Plasma Cosmology .net

Exploring Cosmic Voids and Anomalies: The Mystery of the Cold Spot

Large Scale Cosmological Anomalies and Inhomogeneous Dark Energy

What if the Universe Is NOT Expanding?

https://apologeticspress.org/the-big-bang-theory-a-scientific-critique-part-i-whole-1453/

https://www.i-sis.org.uk/Galaxy_making_stars_at_the_edge_of_the_universe.php

https://act.princeton.edu/sites/g/files/toruqf1171/files/a9r1o5g11h_6viqvc_3u4_0.pdf

https://www.lppfusion.com/science/c...mology/the-growing-case-against-the-big-bang/

https://creation.com/quasar-with-en...-nearby-spiral-galaxy-with-far-lower-redshift

https://iai.tv/articles/the-big-bang-bust-up-auid-2253

https://www.tsijournals.com/articles/the-big-bang-never-happened-a-conclusive-argument-14111.html

https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10338699

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625061-800-did-the-big-bang-really-happen/

https://darkmattercrisis.wordpress.com/category/cosmology/mond/

https://www.sci.news/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html

https://www.quantamagazine.org/astronomers-get-their-wish-and-the-hubble-crisis-gets-worse-20201217/

https://physicsworld.com/a/are-giant-galaxy-clusters-defying-standard-cosmology/

http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/redshift.html

Web telescope

Too many spiral galaxies in the early universe.

James Webb telescope spots thousands of Milky Way lookalikes that 'shouldn't exist' swarming across the early universe

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/james-webb-telescope-spots-thousands-173000173.html
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Actually, if you believe the redshift con job, the universe has been expanding a lot less than the speed of light for billions of years. And even the most distant galaxies are expanding less than the sped of light and they were the earliest.

It is a fail on the Big Bang model. The size of the universe is supposedly 94 billion light years and the universe is less than 14 billion years. The universe is expanding at a rate less the speed of light. The space itself is expanding lesse that the speed of light. How could the universe be 7x larger in light years than its age. In 13.7 billion years it should have expanded less than 13.7 billion light years Vs 94 billion light years.

In fact, many are now finding irrefutable proof that the redshift theory is false, that the universe is not expanding at all, and that there was no Big Bang.

Big Bang is dead.

Redshift anomalies and other things that invalidate the Big Bang expansion

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ft_Data_and_the_Myth_of_Cosmological_Distance
Click on see the full text.

Anomalies in the count of low red shift quasars.

Anomalies in the Counts of Low Redshift Quasars

https://assa.saao.ac.za/wp-content/...liffe-A-review-of-anomalous-redshift-data.pdf

Redshift Anomalies and the Big Bang – Anthony Beckett

Is a new anomaly affecting the entire Universe?

Galaxies and the Universe - Alternate Approaches and the Redshift Controversy

These two shows that today’s age estimate is a farce. The very exact number may be off by 100%. Of course if 100% is the error, then -100% puts it at about 6000 years.

'Tired light' might make the universe twice as old as we thought

Scientists have revisited the disproven light ageing hypothesis, which suggests the universe has been around for almost 27 billion years

More problems with the Big Bang Theory and the redshift explanation.

Plasma Cosmology .net

Exploring Cosmic Voids and Anomalies: The Mystery of the Cold Spot

Large Scale Cosmological Anomalies and Inhomogeneous Dark Energy

What if the Universe Is NOT Expanding?

The Big Bang Theory-A Scientific Critique [Part I] [Whole] - Apologetics Press

Galaxy Making Stars at the Edge of the Universe and Other “Surprises”

https://act.princeton.edu/sites/g/files/toruqf1171/files/a9r1o5g11h_6viqvc_3u4_0.pdf

The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang - LPP Fusion

Quasar with enormous redshift found embedded in nearby spiral galaxy with far lower redshift

The Big Bang Bust-Up

https://www.tsijournals.com/articles/the-big-bang-never-happened-a-conclusive-argument-14111.html

https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10338699

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625061-800-did-the-big-bang-really-happen/

https://darkmattercrisis.wordpress.com/category/cosmology/mond/

https://www.sci.news/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html

https://www.quantamagazine.org/astronomers-get-their-wish-and-the-hubble-crisis-gets-worse-20201217/

https://physicsworld.com/a/are-giant-galaxy-clusters-defying-standard-cosmology/

http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/redshift.html

Web telescope

Too many spiral galaxies in the early universe.

James Webb telescope spots thousands of Milky Way lookalikes that 'shouldn't exist' swarming across the early universe

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/james-webb-telescope-spots-thousands-173000173.html
Please try to make a coherent argument. More is not necessarily better. Find sources that you can understand. Make sure that they are reliable. Then you might have a chance.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Actually, if you believe the redshift con job, the universe has been expanding a lot less than the speed of light for billions of years. And even the most distant galaxies are expanding less than the sped of light and they were the earliest.

It is a fail on the Big Bang model. The size of the universe is supposedly 94 billion light years and the universe is less than 14 billion years. The universe is expanding at a rate less the speed of light. The space itself is expanding lesse that the speed of light. How could the universe be 7x larger in light years than its age. In 13.7 billion years it should have expanded less than 13.7 billion light years Vs 94 billion light years.

In fact, many are now finding irrefutable proof that the redshift theory is false, that the universe is not expanding at all, and that there was no Big Bang.

Big Bang is dead.

Redshift anomalies and other things that invalidate the Big Bang expansion

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ft_Data_and_the_Myth_of_Cosmological_Distance
Click on see the full text.

Anomalies in the count of low red shift quasars.

Anomalies in the Counts of Low Redshift Quasars

https://assa.saao.ac.za/wp-content/...liffe-A-review-of-anomalous-redshift-data.pdf

Redshift Anomalies and the Big Bang – Anthony Beckett

Is a new anomaly affecting the entire Universe?

Galaxies and the Universe - Alternate Approaches and the Redshift Controversy

These two shows that today’s age estimate is a farce. The very exact number may be off by 100%. Of course if 100% is the error, then -100% puts it at about 6000 years.

'Tired light' might make the universe twice as old as we thought

Scientists have revisited the disproven light ageing hypothesis, which suggests the universe has been around for almost 27 billion years

More problems with the Big Bang Theory and the redshift explanation.

Plasma Cosmology .net

Exploring Cosmic Voids and Anomalies: The Mystery of the Cold Spot

Large Scale Cosmological Anomalies and Inhomogeneous Dark Energy

What if the Universe Is NOT Expanding?

The Big Bang Theory-A Scientific Critique [Part I] [Whole] - Apologetics Press

Galaxy Making Stars at the Edge of the Universe and Other “Surprises”

https://act.princeton.edu/sites/g/files/toruqf1171/files/a9r1o5g11h_6viqvc_3u4_0.pdf

The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang - LPP Fusion

Quasar with enormous redshift found embedded in nearby spiral galaxy with far lower redshift

The Big Bang Bust-Up

The Big Bang Never Happened: A Conclusive Argument

https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10338699

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625061-800-did-the-big-bang-really-happen/

https://darkmattercrisis.wordpress.com/category/cosmology/mond/

https://www.sci.news/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html

https://www.quantamagazine.org/astronomers-get-their-wish-and-the-hubble-crisis-gets-worse-20201217/

https://physicsworld.com/a/are-giant-galaxy-clusters-defying-standard-cosmology/

http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/redshift.html

Web telescope

Too many spiral galaxies in the early universe.

James Webb telescope spots thousands of Milky Way lookalikes that 'shouldn't exist' swarming across the early universe

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/james-webb-telescope-spots-thousands-173000173.html
Please try to make a coherent argument. More is not necessarily better. Find sources that you can understand. Make sure that they are reliable. Then you might have a chance.
 

McBell

Unbound
You answered too soon. Of course she didn't. The next question was to be "Was there a time with no life?" The answer for that is no. So we do know from logic alone that there was an abiogenesis event. That does not tell us if it was natural or supernatural and that would lead to all of the various hypotheses of how various steps of abiogenesis could have occurred that have been tested and confirmed to be possible. All of which would be scientific evidence for natural abiogenesis. There is no evidence for supernatural abiogenesis. But scientists do not tend to look for the supernatural.
Sorry.
I got caught up in the moment....
 

McBell

Unbound
Evolution is a lie and false.
Not nearly as much as this bold empty claim.

Thanks fro the complete failure for a required answer to a simple question.
Again you go off into left about requirements.
Required by who?
You?
You refuse to acknowledge any answer you do not like.
So your requirements do not mean diddly to anyone who has seen your questions answered.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Sorry.
I got caught up in the moment....
No problem. It gave me the excuse that I needed to post the rest of my idea.

Since creationists re only looking for excuses to believe, they do not wish to know, they rarely answer posts that look as if they will refute what they just said.

I do not know if you noticed but earlier today @SavedByTheLord posted one of his long line of questions that he claims disprove evolution. I saw one that I felt like answering and I did. He must have thought that it was his best question because he asked that question again n his next post. And that was about when I finally finished answering it rather deeply.

I pointed that out to him. He just ignored it and ran away.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Of course it does.
..but you are not interested .. up to you.
Yes, it gives answers. Rather poor ones since different faiths have different answers. Usually there are so many different answers that one can only see that at best almost all of them will be wrong since they contradict each other and none of them are anywhere near a clear majority and even worse all of them may be wrong.


Faith is never a pathway for reliable answers is what should have been said.
 

McBell

Unbound
I do not know if you noticed but earlier today @SavedByTheLord posted one of his long line of questions that he claims disprove evolution. I saw one that I felt like answering and I did. He must have thought that it was his best question because he asked that question again n his next post. And that was about when I finally finished answering it rather deeply.

I pointed that out to him. He just ignored it and ran away.
They disappear right in the middle of an exchange to reappear as though they did not get their arse handed to them so many times, it has become their Standard Operating Procedure.

I have lost count how many times they have done exactly that to me.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
They disappear right in the middle of an exchange to reappear as though they did not get their arse handed to them so many times, it has become their Standard Operating Procedure.

I have lost count how many times they have done exactly that to me.
I am American and due to the censorbot I have to say that they had their donkeys handed to them.

I suppose it if was a Latino creationist he would get his burro handed to him.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
They disappear right in the middle of an exchange to reappear as though they did not get their arse handed to them so many times, it has become their Standard Operating Procedure.

I have lost count how many times they have done exactly that to me.
That is a fairly common response. If you disappear, when you reappear you can pretend things didn't get posted to you. Or so it seems.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Please try to make a coherent argument. More is not necessarily better. Find sources that you can understand. Make sure that they are reliable. Then you might have a chance.
Actually, if you believe the redshift con job, the universe has been expanding a lot less than the speed of light for billions of years. And even the most distant galaxies are expanding less than the speed of light and they were the earliest.

It is a fail on the Big Bang model. The size of the universe is supposedly 94 billion light years and the universe is less than 14 billion years old. The universe is expanding at a rate less the speed of light. The space itself is expanding less than the speed of light. How could the universe be 7x larger in light years than its age. In 13.7 billion years, it should have expanded less than 13.7 billion light years Vs 94 billion light years.

In fact, many are now finding irrefutable proof that the redshift theory is false, that the universe is not expanding at all, and that there was no Big Bang.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
I think I can claim irrefutable proof about any claim without the need to understand or demonstrate anything. I think anyone can. But is that really a sound way to argue or good witness?
 
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