Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Ha - fooled you! Those were human babies in puppy costumes. I love that gag!
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Questions to Atheists
- Thread starter AFRICAN
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Ha - fooled you! Those were human babies in puppy costumes. I love that gag!
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
never met a puppy I didn't want to torture... mmmm.... fresh meat.
OmarKhayyam
Well-Known Member
Perfect Circle
Just Browsing
That may be true, but this salt was kosher, because the Jews had just passed by that way. Check your facts... the analysis shows this to be true.
OmarKhayyam
Well-Known Member
"What is the purpose of Life ? Why do we Exist?"
The purpose of MY life is whatever I decide it is. The purpose of YOUR life is also entirely your decision.
To ask "What is the purpose of Life" (as a natural phenomena apparently) is to assume there IS one. An unsupported assumption.
Now please explain to us WHY those answers are "ignorant." And do please remember we DO NOT BELIEVE your god exists or every did and nothing written by anyone was the result if its direction.
Now if you have evidence to the contrary please present it.
Failing that . . . . just answer the question.
The purpose of MY life is whatever I decide it is. The purpose of YOUR life is also entirely your decision.
To ask "What is the purpose of Life" (as a natural phenomena apparently) is to assume there IS one. An unsupported assumption.
Now please explain to us WHY those answers are "ignorant." And do please remember we DO NOT BELIEVE your god exists or every did and nothing written by anyone was the result if its direction.
Now if you have evidence to the contrary please present it.
Failing that . . . . just answer the question.
Further proof that you don´t understand us. For example, none of these nullifies morality or state that suicide is good. If you disagree with that it means that you have completely missed the point of anyone here and should start to try and actually understand the perspective from the posters from their perspective.
Lol, those are pretty far fetched.
Alceste
Vagabond
Maybe the reason for his confusion is that he, personally, is so terrified of uncertainty that he would rather kill himself than admit there is anything he does not know.
OmarKhayyam
Well-Known Member
African:
Taking just one of your references (the one about Atheism) it proves nothing regarding your god. All that is a list of natural phenomena. You are imposing on that an assumption , to wit: that your god is responsible for all these things. You have no evidence for that at all. None.
Even assuming arguendo that ALL those example are the result of some supernatural being that still does nothing to establish ANYTHING about that being. And most certainly does even hint that your allah god IS responsible.
What your commentator is doing is what theists so often do. They assume what they want to prove is true, the Quran and THEN cast about for evidence they can use to prove what they have already decided is true. This is simply intellectually DISHONEST.
Taking just one of your references (the one about Atheism) it proves nothing regarding your god. All that is a list of natural phenomena. You are imposing on that an assumption , to wit: that your god is responsible for all these things. You have no evidence for that at all. None.
Even assuming arguendo that ALL those example are the result of some supernatural being that still does nothing to establish ANYTHING about that being. And most certainly does even hint that your allah god IS responsible.
What your commentator is doing is what theists so often do. They assume what they want to prove is true, the Quran and THEN cast about for evidence they can use to prove what they have already decided is true. This is simply intellectually DISHONEST.
Autodidact
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No, not unless you assume your conclusion. Do you know what that means?
Autodidact
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Yes. Do you have a point?
Autodidact
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This day shall We save you in your body, that you may be a Sign to those who come after you! But verily, many among mankind are neglectful of Our Signs (Quran 10:92)
The French president for the purpose of running a laboratory and archaeological examinations on the mummy of the most notorious dictator that ever lived on Earth, he had the mummy imported from Egypt.
Upon arrival it was accorded a very royal welcome the president himself and all ministers bowed in honor of the mummy.
When the ceremony ended, the mummy was carried to a specially-designed section at the Archeology Centre of France.
The final report of the scientists was released late at night stating that the remaining salt in the mummy was overt evidence that it was drowned in the sea, and the body was rescued very shortly where it was immediately embalmed to be saved.
The amazing thing still baffling Professor Maurice was how could this body possibly be safer than any other mummy despite being taken out of the sea up until this time.
As professor Maurice was writing his final report on what he thought would be a new discovery about saving Pharaohs body immediately after his death and embalming it,
Ofcourse the professor instantly denied such thing, saying that its impossible to discover this without the development of science and without using his high-tech and complicated laboratories and computers.
suddenly someone whispered to him that Muslims claim to know something about the drowning of this mummy.
To his surprise, he was told that Muslims believe in a book called Quran and this Quran narrates the story of Pharaohs drowning and ensures the safety of his body after his death as to be a Sign to mankind. The Professor couldnt believe and started to wonder:
How can a book existed 1400 years ago speak about the mummy that was only found 110 years ago, in 1898 ??!!
How can that be possible while the ancient Egyptian heritage was discovered only a few decades ago and no one knew about it before??!!
The Professor sat down pondering on what he was told about the book of Muslims while his Holy Book narrates only the drowning of Pharaoh without saying anything about his body
Is it possible that this mummy in front of me is the one who was chasing Moses ??!!
Is it possible that Muhammad knew this 1400 years ago ??!!
The Professor couldnt sleep that night till they brought him the Old Testament where he read: the sea drowned Pharaoh and his army, no one else was left alive He was surprised that the Holy Book didnt mention about the destiny of the body and that it will be saved. Exodus 14:28, Psalm 136:15, Exodus 15:19
When the scientists were done with the mummy, France retuned it to Egypt , but Professor Maurice couldnt rest for a moment since he was told that Muslims know about the safety of the body. So, he decided to travel and meet anatomy Muslim scientists and there he spoke about his discovery of the safety of the mummy after its death in the sea and so on.
One of the Muslim scientist stood up and simply opened the Quran and pointed to the Professor at one verse:
This day shall We save you in your body, that you may be a Sign to those who come after you! But verily, many among mankind are neglectful of Our Signs (Quran 10:92)
The Professor was struck when he read that and immediately stood in front of the crowd and said loudly: I believe in Islam, I believe in Quran
Then he went back to France with a different face he traveled with.
In France , he dedicated 10 years investigating the scientific discoveries and comparing them with the Quran and trying to come up with one scientific contradiction with the Quran. Finally he quoted one verse from the Quran to be his conclusion:
No falsehood can approach it (this book) from before or behind it: it is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all praise (Quran 41:42)
As a result of all years of his research, Professor Maurice wrote a book that shook all Europe , especially the scientists there
I claim that this entire story is an utter fabrication, or possibly tremendous exagerration. Can you provide the source? *predicts it will be a notoriously dishonest Muslim apologetics website*
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Cobblestones
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And certainly the intelligent thing to do is also to say "I don't know." Those who cannot make this simple statement are incapable of learning.
Cobblestones
Devoid of Ettiquette
And thanks to PerfectCircle for the penicillin.
Cobblestones
Devoid of Ettiquette
Especially those small yippy dogs! I love giving them something to actually yip about!
Autodidact
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No thanks. Did you have something you wanted to assert or support? Please do so.
Autodidact
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You don't have to imagine; just read the comments.
One of the sites claims our molecular makeup proves that we are made of clay, or was at first, or something like that, and that the Quran may have predicted how the radio works based on this line:
Appearently the use of the word "echo" must mean radio
.Ohhh, and it also hold references to our the Earths gravitational force, because of the following line:
Which is basically contradicted by the more modern ideas of how gravity works, such as, well, Einstein. Further more... how can you expect people from that time NOT to perceive the Earth as that? Especially since it defines "receptacle" as:
It sounds exactly like something you could expect from a religious writing. That their understanding of what science actually say about gravity is flawed is of course nothing they are concerned with.
As I said before, it is all very far fetched. They (as in the people who made that site) see all these "miracles", not because they are actually there, but because they want to see them.
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Perfect Circle
Just Browsing
I guess we scared AFRICAN away... Why does that always happen?