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This is smarter (and deeper) than it appears on the surface. I wonder if Kepler realized this?In theology we must consider the predominance of authority; in philosophy the predominance of reason. (Johannes Kepler)
I like Neil, but this is simply untrue.Let there be no doubt that as they are currently practiced, there is no common ground between science and religion. (Neil deGrasse Tyson)
The magnificence of 'artifice'.One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 years. To read is to voyage through time. (Carl Sagan)
This is, in part, why philosophy is important. Creativity is an excellent tool, but without reason, and qualification, it goes nowhere.The options available to a creative person are ever limited by the choices offered by a philosopher. (Neil deGrasse Tyson)
Ditto!Thanks for this thread.
Let there be no doubt that as they are currently practiced, there is no common ground between science and religion. (Neil deGrasse Tyson)
I'm not so sure about that. When we think of Stephen J. Gould's notion that science and religion are "non-overlapping magisterial," I think what's being said is that there really is no commonality between them. They are totally different ways of thinking about the world, and "as they are currently practiced," tend not to borrow from one another.I like Neil, but this is simply untrue.
"unless we love the truth"I've been collecting quotes from scientists. Thought I'd share some. (One per post so people can comment if they want).
Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it. (Blaise Pascal)
Yes, but that's what is so slippery about Tyson's way of expressing it. "No common ground" means there is nothing on which the two parties can agree, suggesting in effect a fundamental opposition between the two. Gould was far more careful and non-confrontational. He suggests, rather, that the two are simply orthogonal to one another, addressing different questions.I'm not so sure about that. When we think of Stephen J. Gould's notion that science and religion are "non-overlapping magisterial," I think what's being said is that there really is no commonality between them. They are totally different ways of thinking about the world, and "as they are currently practiced," tend not to borrow from one another.
No. It is enough to simply accept the truth, when it is shown to be the truth. There are truths that are not going to be easy to love -- for example when your doctor tells you that you have an inoperable cancer, and need to get your affairs in order."unless we love the truth"
Is it must for the Skeptics/Humanists to love truth, please?
Regards
Hmmm. Jesus asked ¨ what is truth?¨"He answered His own question "I am the Truth¨.If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth. (Carl Sagan)
Are you sure? I thought that was Pontius Pilate.Hmmm. Jesus asked ¨ what is truth?¨¨.
It was hyperbole. And I'm sure that Neil knew that. The commonality is us. The commonality is the fact of our insurmountable cognitive limitations. The commonality is our willingness and desire to see patterns, and meaning, in the great mystery of being.I'm not so sure about that. When we think of Stephen J. Gould's notion that science and religion are "non-overlapping magisterial," I think what's being said is that there really is no commonality between them. They are totally different ways of thinking about the world, and "as they are currently practiced," tend not to borrow from one another.