Radical Christian Fundamentalist Murders her own 6-week old daughter

[Pax]

Baby girl died after religious fanatic mother stuffed Bible in her mouth and sat on her | Mail Online

Julia Lovemore, 41, had torn out pages of the Bible and stuffed them into baby Faith's mouth before smothering her.

Cambridge Crown Court heard she was a religious fanatic who had been in a 'florid state of psychoses' at the time of the killing.

When they arrived at the house in June last year they found Mr Lovemore praying loudly and shouting 'Take the devil out of Julia.'

The court heard how Mrs Lovemore, a Christian fundamentalist, had suffered at least three manic psychotic episodes since being diagnosed with bi-polar effective disorder in 1995.

 

[Noaidi]

To be fair, if the mother suffered from psychoses and bi-polar disorder, then the religious aspect of this tragic story may be irrelevant

 

[Storm]

I'd like to see a source for that claim.

 

[Autodidact]

Well, c'mon. She happened to be Christian, but apparently this was a case of mental illness. Not really a fair shot.

 

[Noaidi]

Plus the story is from the Daily Mail - a paper not renowned for its impartiality and lack of social judgement. If it had been toilet paper instead of a bible, would it have been reported in the same way? I don't think so.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Not all Christians would do things like this. Key word here Pax- Radical Christian Fundamentalist.

 

[Storm]

Not all Christians would do things like this. Key word here Pax- Radical Christian Fundamentalist.

I rather think the key word would be "psychoses."

 

[Tiapan]

I used to think religion was just for the ignorant, I guess it applies to the insane as well.
I'll bet she was from the southern united states, the closer to the equator the more stupid humans appear to be.

Cheers

 

[Autodidact]

I guess what I'm saying, Pax, is that just saying "Theist does horrible thing!" is pure bigotry unless you're saying religion caused it. Prejudice is a bad thing; don't do it.

 

[Autodidact]

To be fair, religious fundamentalism can be and is often a precursor to mental illness. Religionists often try to isolate themselves and maintain an anti-social existence, refusing to integrate with the ever-improving world. That in itself spells a recipe for disaster.

That doesn't sound right. Over 3/4 of Americans are Christian--who are they isolated from?

 

[The Enlightened One]

I'm curious who would allow them to raise a child...

 

[Storm]

I'm curious who would allow them to raise a child...

Who's "them?"

 

[Shadow Wolf]

To be fair, if the mother suffered from psychoses and bi-polar disorder, then the religious aspect of this tragic story may be irrelevant

That is still no excuse. While her lawyer may try to use such a claim to get her out off on a lesser sentence, using a mental illness as an excuse does make this excusable.

To be fair, religious fundamentalism can be and is often a precursor to mental illness.

Sources?

 

[The Enlightened One]

Who's "them?"

The Lovemores of course.

Lol, did you think I was refering to fundamentalists? That would be predjudism if I did :no: Lol

 

[Storm]

The Lovemores of course.

Lol, did you think I was refering to fundamentalists? That would be predjudism if I did :no: Lol

Ah. I wasn't sure you meant the particular family, fundamentalists, or the dangerously mentally ill.

 

[The Enlightened One]

Ah. I wasn't sure you meant the particular family, fundamentalists, or the dangerously mentally ill.

Now that you mention it; the dangerously mentally ill. "Dangerously" in the sense that they have to be constantly monitored. IMO that is no way for a child to be brought up. I don't even think that they should have been legally allowed to have children but I guess once the deed has been done it can't be undone(well actually it can but I'm not going to touch upon that subject). The child should have been under somebody else's care from the start, given the parents condition and the mothers recent past. I might be hitting a touchy subject for some people on this one but it's just my own opinion.

I am not sure what Bi-Polar effective is, I only know what Bi-Polar depression is.

 

[Storm]

Now that you mention it; the dangerously mentally ill. "Dangerously" in the sense that they have to be constantly monitored. IMO that is no way for a child to be brought up. I don't even think that they should have been legally allowed to have children but I guess once the deed has been done it can't be undone(well actually it can but I'm not going to touch upon that subject). The child should have been under somebody else's care from the start, given the parents condition and the mothers recent past. I might be hitting a touchy subject for some people on this one but it's just my own opinion.

I am not sure what Bi-Polar effective is, I only know what Bi-Polar depression is.

I have to agree, in principle. In practice, I think people with managed mental illness (like myself) would have their children unnecessarily removed.

Basically, it sounds good on paper, but there's not an agency I'd trust to make the judgment.

 

[The Enlightened One]

All I know is that if I was diagnosed with a mental illness that could be passed down through my genes, and it was sufficient enough to effect my child socially, I would have no problem agreeing to not have children.

EDIT: I am not referring to mental illnesses such as mild social anxieties, phobias, or other minor illnesses; just things like schitzophrenia, manic depression(not Bi-Polar, no matter what my health teacher said lol), and extreme illnesses.

 

[Storm]

Well, that's fine so long as it's a personal choice.

If you're saying that others should agree as well, I have to wonder if you'd make the same demand of, say, diabetics.

 

[The Enlightened One]

Well, that's fine so long as it's a personal choice.

If you're saying that others should agree as well, I have to wonder if you'd make the same demand of, say, diabetics.

Eh, I wouldn't enforce it if I had the authority lol, but I would still rather people not reproduce if their offspring has a chance to be medically effected in a way in which it could threaten their(or others) lives because I feel that it is unfair(unless of course the parents have the funding to take care of the childs medical needs ON THEIR OWN with no help from society or the Govt.; personal opinion though, wouldn't even dream of others to feel the same way )

On the same note, if I was diabetic and was born with it due to genes I would think it very fair to be given the chance to live so I'm going to use one of my favorite terms here... It's subjective