Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults

[Guy Threepwood]

Maybe you could read what Luis and I actually said instead of changing it into what you want it to say.

"that there is quite the ideological push to ignore, deny and lie about it."

again I don't think evolutionists are liars, just incorrect- I have no need to dismiss them as dishonest to try to exclude them from debate. I think skeptics are perfectly capable of winning out on an even self-merit playing field where all opinions are welcome

And apparently, as we see in the stats, that is the case

 

[GoodbyeDave]

It's been widely taught as fact in schools for decades, permeates popular culture, every nature documentary and glossy science mag. yet >80 % are still skeptical... apparently the evidence is not all that convincing.

No. The high level of skepticism is largely unique to the USA, which Unesco tests show to have one of the lowest standards of science education in the developed world. And which has one of the highest levels of beliefs in all sorts of crackpot theories. If that's ad hominem, so be it.

I certainly understand it, as I studied it at university. There are a few unanswered questions about details, that that's science: no-one claims to have all the answers. Creationism leaves endless questions. For example, why does the recurrent laryngeal nerve descend to the chest cavity rather than go directly to the larynx? In the giraffe, it travels a dozen feet where it could go just a few inches. If that's design, I could do it better!

 

[SkepticThinker]

"that there is quite the ideological push to ignore, deny and lie about it."

again I don't think evolutionists are liars, just incorrect- I have no need to dismiss them as dishonest to try to exclude them from debate. I think skeptics are perfectly capable of winning out on an even self-merit playing field where all opinions are welcome

And apparently, as we see in the stats, that is the case

Am I not speaking English?

Creationists have been fighting evolution at every turn for decades. It is they who continually misrepresent and distort what the theory of evolution actually is about. (Quote mining is part of this.)
I guess if you have no evidence to support your own hypothesis, all you can do is try to discredit evolution.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

No. The high level of skepticism is largely unique to the USA, which Unesco tests show to have one of the lowest standards of science education in the developed world. And which has one of the highest levels of beliefs in all sorts of crackpot theories. If that's ad hominem, so be it.

I certainly understand it, as I studied it at university. There are a few unanswered questions about details, that that's science: no-one claims to have all the answers. Creationism leaves endless questions. For example, why does the recurrent laryngeal nerve descend to the chest cavity rather than go directly to the larynx? In the giraffe, it travels a dozen feet where it could go just a few inches. If that's design, I could do it better!

Yet by far the highest level of practical scientific discovery and application- what does that say about the value of this academic measure of 'science education'? I wouldn't be surprised if belief in evolution, global warming, multiverses and all kinds of crackpot theories are tallied up in those test scores!

Volcanoes, meteors, earthquakes were likewise once popular examples of 'bad design' before we know they were crucial parts of Earth's life support system.

There will always be questions the light of science has not illuminated, which we can point to and say 'why would God design that?' atheism of the gaps?..

If that's design, I could do it better

Yes, if I were a giraffe, I'd want a guy who took a class in evolution at school, re-wiring my nervous system for me

 

[LuisDantas]

"that there is quite the ideological push to ignore, deny and lie about it."

again I don't think evolutionists are liars, just incorrect- I have no need to dismiss them as dishonest to try to exclude them from debate.

That is a good thing, since it is not there that you will find the liars.

 

[Midnight Rain]

I think that's a good demonstration of the point. Ask yourself why nobody would ever say this, why nobody ever feels the need to get this defensive and ideological over gravity.. When something is self evident, when one has compelling arguments, evidence, there is no use for personal attacks is there?

Mainly because no religion has stated otherwise.

 

[Shad]

There will always be questions the light of science has not illuminated, which we can point to and say 'why would God design that?' atheism of the gaps?..

Injecting your presupposition in the form of a question is fallacious. Atheists can say "I have no idea" whereas theists, as you demonstrated, use this same gap for their God. Amusing to see you blatantly use God of the gap as if it were an argument.

 

[vombatus]

There will always be questions the light of science has not illuminated, which we can point to and say 'why would God design that?'

Far from being a question "science has not illuminated", the strange pathway of the recurrent laryngeal nerve is well explained by evolutionary theory; we can trace the descent of the sixth aortic arch into the thorax to become the ligamentum arteriosum, dragging the unfortunate laryngeal nerve with it. This is very well explained in Ch.11 of Dawkins's Greatest Show on Earth, and even more fully in Jerry Coyne's Why Evolution is True; have you read either?

atheism of the gaps?

No gap in the biology, only in theists' attempts to find an adaptive function for the nerve's wanderings.