Regional forces outnumber ISIS 100 to 1, so...

[Godobeyer]

Long story short: It's Israels fault.

As always. Gotta love Arabs...

i miss this
so it's becomes a proverb

I have update proverb make you love me more :

long story short , it's always israeli fault

 

[Smart_Guy]

Gotta love Arabs...

I'm an Arab...

 

[steeltoes]

The best way to deal with ISIS is for the US to end their murderous occupation of Iraq.

 

[Faybull]

The best way to deal with ISIS is for the US to end their murderous occupation of Iraq.

What do you suppose be done in order for that to begin? Do we as Americans reoccupy Iraq to that end?

 

[icehorse]

Out of curiosity, doesn't Islam teach the value of community? I would think that if my neighbors (in the Ummah no less!), were being decimated by madmen like ISIS, I'd feel some moral obligation to help out...

 

[thau]

Almost certainly significantly larger than 20,000.

But the reasons:

Because the Shia government of Iraq doesn't want to be invaded by Sunni forces.
Because Iran doesn't want Iraq to be invaded by Sunni forces.
Because regional armies tend to be corrupt, complacent 'jobs for the boys' type organisations more concerned with profiting from corrupt activities rather than being disciplined fighting forces (as you saw in Iraq).
Because most of the countries in the region are highly suspicious of each other and highly incapable of coordinated actions.
Because they would suffer heavy losses.
Because there are significant minorities that support ISIS in the region.
Because regional governments don't rule through a popular mandate so aren't going to take risks that might blow up in their face.
etc.

I think a lot of what you submit here makes sense, although I could not quite follow the first two? Isn't the ****e govt of Iraq already being invaded by the Sunni ISIS? And if they become more powerful would not Iran be even more concerned?

Be that as it may, this speaks to me that no matter how evil the Islamic fringe militant group is, they are not going to be obliterated by any Arab or Middle Eastern Islamic state. So why must the USA and Western Europe act like such cowards or fools? We are in the middle of a war, like it or not. Either we play hard ball now or we are only going to make things more dangerous for us all. Tell the U.N., the world and the Arab states just how evil their Islamic radicals are and if any more bombs, etc threaten people in the West we are going to go in and destroy. I know it is radical, but I cannot see a way out of this?

 

[Augustus]

I think a lot of what you submit here makes sense, although I could not quite follow the first two? Isn't the ****e govt of Iraq already being invaded by the Sunni ISIS? And if they become more powerful would not Iran be even more concerned?

As in Saudia Arabia, UAE, Jordan, etc.

Saudi and Iran are enemies. Iran supports Assad, Saudi supports the opposition. And so forth...

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Error in Islam
And not mis- Muslims
But Islam is the union between a Muslim and Islamic thought
So the result is also mis
2. I support an Islamic system based on ideas isos
It continued to true Islam
3. Muslims to believe in the Koran as isos it believes
4. The world must know that the real Islam

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

this is another story .

no one can deny that Kings of Oil are toys in hand of the West , and West also supply the indirectly rebels which suppose rebels Jabhat Nusrah and ISIS by weapons in Syria , by the money of Kings of Oil .
EDITED:
Turkey is NATO member so it's follow what West want , and to Kings of Oil are allie to West "be more honest they surrender to West ."

destroying Syria and Iraq and Libya (why not Egypt ) is in benefit of Israel regime .

Saudi Islamic state, which represents Muslims because the tomb of Mohammed and the Kaaba and the Black Stone
And all the Islamic movements of the Sunni school receive support from the State
Islamic proselytizing relies on Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia was also the reason for the fall of Saddam Hussein
Saudi Arabia they want an Islamic regime in Iraq
But follow the Shiite school were able to control the reins of power in Iraq
For this conflict within Iraq is between Sunni and Shiite school school
And on the west been engaged in this conflict because he brothers struggle
He has to wait for the result to be resolved between them

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Conflict between Shiite and Sunni school Old School
Since that killed bin Muawiya Hassan and Hussein over the descendants of the Prophet of Islam Muhammad
This is an ongoing conflict and the distortion caused by the Koran
Muslim Caliph Uthman was able to twist one of verses of the Koran
This verse is the source of the dispute between them
Shiite school says that the Islamic Caliphate is the right of Muhammad's cousin Ali ibn Abi Talib
But the Caliph Abu Bakr stolen from him
This is Islamic history

 

[Godobeyer]

Saudi Islamic state, which represents Muslims because the tomb of Mohammed and the Kaaba and the Black Stone
And all the Islamic movements of the Sunni school receive support from the State
Islamic proselytizing relies on Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia was also the reason for the fall of Saddam Hussein
Saudi Arabia they want an Islamic regime in Iraq
But follow the Shiite school were able to control the reins of power in Iraq
For this conflict within Iraq is between Sunni and Shiite school school
And on the west been engaged in this conflict because he brothers struggle
He has to wait for the result to be resolved between them

far from the truth .

the regime of Saudi Arabia decision as "state" don't represent ALL Muslims .

if you not sure ask Smart Guy , he is saudi, i am sure he disagree with his regime in some decisions .

 

[icehorse]

Why fight your own battles when you can get someone else to do it for you?

A lot of people agreed with this post. It could be an accurate assessment, it could also be pragmatic. It hardly seems ethical or moral.

 

[nazz]

A lot of people agreed with this post. It could be an accurate assessment, it could also be pragmatic. It hardly seems ethical or moral.

It probably is not. But it's a very human kind of thing to do.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

far from the truth .

the regime of Saudi Arabia decision as "state" don't represent ALL Muslims .

if you not sure ask Smart Guy , he is saudi, i am sure he disagree with his regime in some decisions .

Saudi Arabia is the state of the Sunni Islamic school which is behind the campaigns and advocacy preaching to Islam in the world
I am aa spoke in politics
But I speak in religion
Saudi Islamic state 80 percent of Islamic laws
Beating the sword is a legal punishment
Skin
Women's rights
Discretionary crimes
So Saudi Arabia is the Islamic state and the leadership of the Islamic world stems from Saudi Arabia
More scholars from Saudi Arabia
Most of the religious edicts of Saudi Arabia
Why reduce the role of Saudi Arabia as a mission in the Muslim world ???

 

[Godobeyer]

Saudi Arabia is the state of the Sunni Islamic school which is behind the campaigns and advocacy preaching to Islam in the world
I am aa spoke in politics
But I speak in religion
Saudi Islamic state 80 percent of Islamic laws
Beating the sword is a legal punishment
Skin
Women's rights
Discretionary crimes
So Saudi Arabia is the Islamic state and the leadership of the Islamic world stems from Saudi Arabia
More scholars from Saudi Arabia
Most of the religious edicts of Saudi Arabia
Why reduce the role of Saudi Arabia as a mission in the Muslim world ???

that's your ignorance

most of the Muslims are not follow the method of catholic, we don't have Pope .

so Saudi Arabia scholars or leader don't have any control in Muslim world,except opinion .(NOT obligation )

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

that's your ignorance

most of the Muslims are not follow the method of catholic, we don't have Pope .

so Saudi Arabia scholars or leader don't have any control in Muslim world,except opinion .(NOT obligation )

Caliph is the pope in Islam
The system of succession was prevalent in Muslim countries to the beginning of the nineteenth century , after the Ottoman Empire fell in Turkey

 

[Godobeyer]

Caliph is the pope in Islam
The system of succession was prevalent in Muslim countries to the beginning of the nineteenth century , after the Ottoman Empire fell in Turkey

that's known ,i thought you are actualty talking about present "Saudi Arabia" ?

that not change anything about what i said before.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Saudi king called the Custodian of the Two
Most of the scholars were from Saudi Arabia
Including Ibn Taymiyyah and others
Considered religious edicts issued by the Saudi scholars in Sunni scholars guide school
Shiites know Imamate
A religious system depends on the interpretation of the Koran
There is a verse in the Qur'aan
Refers to the Imamate
But Othman Ibn Affan character of this verse and became a different interpretation when the two schools

 

[Godobeyer]

Most of the scholars were from Saudi Arabia
Including Ibn Taymiyyah and others

BREAKING NEWS

Ibn Taymiyaah was Saudi

seems even the History , you have a failed with .

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

BREAKING NEWS

Ibn Taymiyaah was Saudi

seems even the History , you have a failed with .

I am my knowledge it is the Arabian Peninsula
But that was the origin of another country , I do not care about these things too much