Excellent! I have great admiration for your rational and reasonable approach to a mystery.
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Reincarnation?
- Thread starter Apocolypse
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Excellent! I have great admiration for your rational and reasonable approach to a mystery.
Apocolypse
Member
Oh I know that indeed, perhaps the world will hear.
Apocolypse
Member
I sense my communication will be blocked before the night is over.
Apocolypse
Member
Nope
Apocolypse
Member
Lanbert was the highlander , wouldn't that be great?i dont have time to play games with this life. Cultivation of Buddhism is no game
leov
Well-Known Member
What is your answer?
Apocolypse
Member
There is no answer but the truth
You probably said that in your last life too.
Apocolypse
Member
I'm sensing trouble in reincarnation talk .
leov
Well-Known Member
so, what is the truth?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. Once your gone, your gone.
However that doesn't necessarily mean the lights are out forever.
I mean we did come out of the Abyss already, so there's no reason to think that can't ever happen again.
Just that it will be another being, for another place , for another time.
leov
Well-Known Member
set up fwiw?
Apocolypse
Member
I probably did but shhhhh , I don't know why they talk to me.
Apocolypse
Member
Here seems the time and the place for me
Moz
Religion. A pox on all their Houses.
Hi
I do not like the concept of good and evil in an everlasting struggle.
If i understand it properly the whole game just keeps on rolling like this forever with new players being eternally feed into the game. I can not see the point of a system that just accepts the status quo. But i may be missing something it is not a subject i know much about in any of its more intricate levels.
Peace
I do not like the concept of good and evil in an everlasting struggle.
If i understand it properly the whole game just keeps on rolling like this forever with new players being eternally feed into the game. I can not see the point of a system that just accepts the status quo. But i may be missing something it is not a subject i know much about in any of its more intricate levels.
Peace
Moz
Religion. A pox on all their Houses.
Hi
I do not understand what you mean by that. Suffering within creation exists forever in this view doesn't it
Peace
susanblange
Active Member
If there is an incarnation (of God), there can also be reincarnation. You can only be reincarnated if you are in Heaven. Death and Hell is permanent. There are seven people I know of that have been reincarnated. They are Elijah, Gabrielle, Michael, David, Deborah, Adam, and Jesus. The last two were kicked out of Heaven. You can only be reincarnated as human, and not animal.
Who told you that reincarnation , more precisely rebirth for evolving souls (punar-janma), and especially suffering, keeps happening forever?
The goal is liberation (moksha) from the cycle of birth and death.
That does not ,mean the jivAtmA (living entity) had just one birth. The multiple births, where the entity resumed where they left off in the last birth, are to give more time for spiritual maturity and progress.
Incarnation of God = avatAr. The difference is that God (Brahman) descends by Will. Whereas rebirth of evolving entities is involuntary.
However, generally the term reincarnation is used to mean rebirth.
Bhagvad GeetA
Arjun asks Krishna , will the yogi who cannot steady the mind or attain final emancipation/peace perish or regress?
BhagvAn (Shri Krishna) says:
BG 6.35 O strong-armed one,no doubt the mind can be unsteady and difficult to restrain. However, O son of Kunti, by the constant practice of Yoga (meditation..., focus on inner Divinity), detachment and renunciation, it is possible to control the mind.
BG 6.40 Dear PArth, son of PruthA, one [who has been practicing Yoga with devotion] never perishes or regresses in this life or the next. No one who works to uplift themselves spiritually ever regresses or devolves.
BG 6.41 The one who had left the practice of Divine Yoga incomplete in the last birth, either goes to Swarga (a heavenly abode) , enjoys the stay there and come back in a family of righteous, moral and rich or royal folks.
BG 6.42 If not, s/he is born in a family of Yogis. However such a birth is extremely rare.
BG 6.43 There, the values qualities and skills learned in the previous birth are carried over, and the yogi pursues (resumes) practice of Yoga with new enthusiasm, more than before.
*BG 6.45 However, the Yogi who studies this science very carefully, is sincere, persistent, due to strength attained through many previous births, attains full perfection, burns up all sins, and reaches the Highest state (i.e. does not return to the mortal world).
BG 6.46 The Yogi (one united with the Divine, having surrendered expectations i.e. karma-yogi) is greater than the tapasvi (austere monk), and also greater than the Jnanis who are the spiritual scientists, knowers of Brahman', and greater than those who focus on work with expectations of results (karmi). Therefore, Arjun, be a [nishkAm karma-]Yogi.
*BG 6.47 Among all Yogis, the one who connects their inner self to Me, and has loving devotion for Me, continuously devoted to Me with faith and focus, is the highest in My opinion.
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