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Rejecting people or rejecting God.

firedragon

Veteran Member
You're completely wrong by the way. Bold of you to assume my religion from across a computer screen.

I am not religious at all LOL
You just didn't understand what I said. "LOL".

You are an Atheist mate. But still you are hyper dogmatic evangelist. You worship prophets enough to repeat what they say without analysis. At least theists don't worship their prophets.
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
Tell me. What subject on scripture have you studied?

Obviously I expect you to do a handwave, but let's see if you have the maturity to answer a question without a handwave.
I don't have the maturity to take an interrogation from you seriously tbh :laughing:

Others, yes. And you at other times, yes. But not you with this thread.

Oh, here is the handwave :peace::hand::handwaving:
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I don't have the maturity to take an interrogation from you seriously tbh :laughing:

Others, yes. And you at other times, yes. But not you with this thread.

Oh, here is the handwave :peace::hand::handwaving:
Exactly what I said. All you can do is a handwave. Because you have not studied any of these subjects.

Ciao.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Believe what you want.

You don't come off as that smart in these subjects as well.
Well. I didn't make any positive claims on a topic. It was you who did that. So it's your burden mate. If you can't even understand that simple fact, it's really really bad.

Tell me. Again. What have you specifically studied about scripture? What line?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Definitely one is happening, so it's a problem.
No, not to me.

I have learned of Allah as defined by the Qur'an and as taught by Islam.

That tells me everything that I needed to solve that non-problem.

It is that simple.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You just didn't understand what I said. "LOL".

You are an Atheist mate. But still you are hyper dogmatic evangelist. You worship prophets enough to repeat what they say without analysis. At least theists don't worship their prophets.
You have no clue about atheism, do you?
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Salam

I think the most difficult thing in Islam, is that you have to reject many people. That is you don't accept them as good people but rather are evil destined to hell.

But the flip side of that, is because humanity has not united on guidance of God, the rebellious can be forcing accepting them or rejecting God. That is either accept them or reject God.

For example, a bisexual woman. You may see her as kind, cool, etc. However, they are when presenting themselves to be accepted, they are in indeed saying you should reject God's judgment on them and rather accept them.

This is not an easy decision either way. To reject Quran and guidance for a person is not easy. And to accept guidance and reject a person you care about is not easy as well.

This shows the importance of being sincere to truth. If Islam is false, it should not be followed. And if true it should be and people rejected instead.

We don't get to make up God per our whims just so that we can fit people in paradise.
Genesis 22:9-12

9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.

10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.

11 And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.

12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.



In True Christianity Total Devotion to Elohim/God Is Rejection of the World Enemy/Contrary to Elohim/God. The World Enemy/Contrary to Elohim/God Rejects The True Followers of Elohim/God. Rejection of the World is a Badge Of Honour. We Worship the Creator rather than the Created.

Elohim/God Only Accepts Total Commitment. Anything less and you are Worshiping the Devil/Satan.


Bishop Macedo - The Mysteries of Faith
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Genesis 22:9-12

9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.

10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.

11 And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.

12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.



In True Christianity Total Devotion to Elohim/God Is Rejection of the World Enemy/Contrary to Elohim/God. The World Enemy/Contrary to Elohim/God Rejects The True Followers of Elohim/God. Rejection of the World is a Badge Of Honour. We Worship the Creator rather than the Created.

Elohim/God Only Accepts Total Commitment. Anything less and you are Worshiping the Devil/Satan.


Bishop Macedo - The Mysteries of Faith
What? You are quoting Edir Macedo of all people?!?

You can do better by yourself, pal.
 

jimb

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Salam

I think the most difficult thing in Islam, is that you have to reject many people. That is you don't accept them as good people but rather are evil destined to hell.

But the flip side of that, is because humanity has not united on guidance of God, the rebellious can be forcing accepting them or rejecting God. That is either accept them or reject God.

For example, a bisexual woman. You may see her as kind, cool, etc. However, they are when presenting themselves to be accepted, they are in indeed saying you should reject God's judgment on them and rather accept them.

This is not an easy decision either way. To reject Quran and guidance for a person is not easy. And to accept guidance and reject a person you care about is not easy as well.

This shows the importance of being sincere to truth. If Islam is false, it should not be followed. And if true it should be and people rejected instead.

We don't get to make up God per our whims just so that we can fit people in paradise.
Are you okay???

John 3:16, "For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life." I don't see a "bisexual woman" (whatever that means) excluded here.

You don't get to make up God per your whims just so that you can exclude people from paradise.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
You have declared faith in fictions about atheism in this very page of the thread. Don't pretend otherwise.
Nope. I never said "atheism" in that post mate. So try your best to bring some strawman to feel good but it's just being dishonest to continue. And you did not even begin to understand the post you are trying your evangelical dogmatic levels best to strawman.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Nope. I never said "atheism" in that post mate. So try your best to bring some strawman to feel good but it's just being dishonest to continue. And you did not even begin to understand the post you are trying your evangelical dogmatic levels best to strawman.
Bye. I have no time to waste on people drunk on denialism.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
From what I've read of Qur'an and the Bible I have no trouble rejecting it morally. My impressions is that literally it makes no realistic sense. Studying it would be a waste of time. It says nothing good at face value. I don't really need any figurative interpretations of it. Don't need it's allegories nor it's metaphors either. People live just fine without it all and the divisions, and wars it all causes.
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
What have you specifically studied about scripture? What line?
I have studied enough.

Leviticus 20:13 says that I am an abomination who should be killed. I can paraphrase some other beauties off of the top of my head. But that's all you get from me.
 
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