Well, that's quite a bit to respond to. I'll quote you and then respond, step by step.
"Are u telling me that just because science made some suggestions (which can't be proved) about the origin of the universe and the origin of life on earth , this is enough and satisfactory for u ?"
Well, two obvious options are: 1) dream up some myth about how the universe was created (such as all the myths in all the "holy books"), or 2) apply the scientific method to learn as much as one can. So, yes, I choose the second method -- for at least it's a method by which one can "prove" what's wrong (e.g., all the myths in all the "holy books").
"but how can u explain the 'perfection' and 'Beauty' in the universe around us , one doesn't need to be an astronomer or a biologist to figure out that ,"
As someone else said, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Similarly seems generally to apply to "perfection". For example, I consider some sunrises, some flowers, and my grandchildren to be 'beautiful' -- and generally speaking, I can "explain" them.
"doesn't that [I presume you mean all the 'perfection' and 'Beauty'] tell u something about the great power controlling this universe"
Well, it depends on what you mean by "great power". For me, the sunrise "tells" me the scattering of light varies inversely with the fourth power of the wave length and therefore red light is scattered less than blue (demonstrating the "great power" of Maxwell's equations of electrodynamics); the beauty of some flowers "tells" me that natural selection stimulated the flower's DNA molecule to present an appearance especially attractive to pollinating insects (and therefore, the "great power" of evolution); and when it comes to the beauty and perfection of my grandchildren, it "tells" me of the "great power" of personal bias.
"doesn't that make u think we r here for a purpose , not just to live for a while , and then die forever"
Go easy! "Just to live for a while" is a very significant purpose! The DNA molecule "learned" (by natural selection) that its temporary hosts are rather insignificant. Much more important (to the DNA's continuance) is to "scramble" the DNA every generation (i.e., promote sexual reproduction) both to test out if new versions can better survive changing environmental conditions and to thwart the damnable viruses that "figure out" how to crack the old DNA code (and like all clerics, live off their hosts as parasites). Meanwhile, most people (unfortunately but understandably) consider themselves much more important than as "just" a temporary host of the DNA molecule, but for those who think so, I wish that they'd consider the realistic alternative (i.e., being nothing at all!) -- rather than consider themselves so important that the imagined creator of the universe, HIMself, is passionately interested in them! As someone else said, such religious nonsense is egotism gone beserk.
"I don't want to be rude , but i couldn't help laughing when you said that behavioral science will be able to steer humanity to peace and justice one day , How is that ? ,are they going to invent pills for mercy and morals?"
Well, rather than laugh more, you may wish to investigate what is meant by "behavioral sciences" (anthropology, biology, criminology, ecology, economics,
psychology, psychiatry, political science, social science,....). It's a huge challenge to determine scientifically why people behave as they do, e.g., willingly run from reality to believe in some giant Jabberwock in the sky, even though not a single shred of data supports such silliness.
"you say u don't believe in god ,"
Well, actually, I doubt very much that I wrote that. Instead (as I demonstrate in my free, online book at
www.zenofzero.net), I estimate the probability of any god to be very much less than 1 chance in a google (i.e., less than one chance in 10^100 -- and probably closer to one chance in 10^500). Thereby, I acknowledge the possibility of the existence of some god -- but after spending a lifetime doing scientific research, it's the smallest probability that I've ever encountered. Thereby, the idea of any god would really not be worth a second thought -- were it not for the terrible harm that all organized religions have done (and continue to do) to humanity, and therefore, the great need to eradicate all of them.
"but actually you are making science itself a god"
Well, you'll need to define what you mean by "god". I would however agree with the assessment made by M.M. Mangasarian: "Religion is the science of children; science is the religion of adults."
"you also said that fear is the backbone of all religions ,
and i 'll talk only about my religion , and let others talk about theirs For islam ,it's not fear only , it's a balanced state between fear and hope ,"
Well, for one, I was using the word "fear", alone, because that's what you did in your original post. Recall your: "the more we fear God". But otherwise, if you'll look into the principal "holy books", you'll see that they're loaded with threats, stimulating fear (e.g., of "eternal punishment"). The original form of Judaism (before being influenced by Zoroaster's silliness) was better (no Hell to fear), but even it had such stupidity as "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." In reality, the beginning of wisdom is to not "believe" in anything supported by zero data and to dismiss any idea as meaningless when that's what it is, e.g., the meaningless idea "God exists".
"if you r having an exam , what makes u study for it ? it is because u fear you will get bad grade ,and you hope to get the full mark or close , this balanced state of fear and hope is the only thing that made you fight temptations , and stick to your study place for 10 or 12 hours ,"
Although data are available to support your assessment, yet on the one hand, it's a pity that you've been conditioned to accept that life is like studying for an exam (recall: "life isn't a problem to solve -- but a happening, to experience") and on the other hand, what I hope for you is that someday, soon, you will choose to study for 10 or 12 hours per day not because you're worried about an exam or threatened in some other manner, but because you want to learn.
"the same thing here ,we are here to know god , submit to him ,and to fight against our greed and evil , that's why we need that balanced state of fear and hope to achieve what we r created for,"
I'm sorry that you've been indoctrinated to "believe" such nonsense; I hope that, on your own, you'll soon be able to find a better way to live what all evidence suggests is this sole opportunity that you'll have to experience your existence. But simultaneously I'd urge you not to worry about your own death (although do try to postpone it as long as possible!), for as I wrote in one of the poems in my book, "you can't be aware of a lack of awareness."
"we also need guidance from god about what is moral and what is not , because we can't know even this by ourselves ,"
Actually, studies in behavioral science have shown not only that such a claim is wrong but also that it's quite stupid. As a single example from a selection of thousands (if not millions), dolphins swim underneath their wounded cousins, lifting them to the surface periodically, so they can breathe. Possibly your "spiritual advisor" (i.e., the one who earns a living just by telling stories rather than engaging in physical or mental labor) will tell you that some giant Jabberwock in the sky came down and wrote some "Dolphin Commandments" on some seashell or something, but consider the possibility that social animals (such as dolphins, monkeys, and people) discovered over thousands if not millions of generations that such behavior was beneficial for survival of their species; thus by nature and by nurture, we acquire such "moral codes" -- which the fellow collecting the money claims was given to us by his god (and therefore, the cleric wants his "cut").
"and why the existense of paradise ( or hellfire ) seems fictious to you"
That's a simple question to answer: not only because I haven't seen even the tiniest shred of data to support such silly speculations but also because obviously such ideas are very useful for the clerics of the world to profit from the world's largest and longest-running con game -- making me highly suspicious that all the clerics of the world are truly "making a killing" (including killing of those who call their bluffs) by duping the poor people who are indoctrinated since they were children in "believing" such silliness.
"the one who created this huge perfectly organized universe , with all its stars , planets , seas , animals , cell ,and atoms , why can't he create a paradise for those who found their true path in life ?"
Well, if there were such a god (but recall the estimate of the probability that such an animal exists), then I'd grant you that HE might be able to pull off such a stunt. But meanwhile, getting back to reality, what data support such silliness? Further, what data support your speculation that the universe was created by some "one" --rather than having created itself via a symmetry-breaking fluctuations in a total void. As I show in my book, the scientific support for the second alternative is quite compelling.
[And as a postscript, perhaps I should mention that I do entertain the possibility that you live in a Muslim family (and/or a Muslim country) and therefore you possibly feel it to be necessary to write what you did (for fear of the con-artist clerics demanding that you be killed as an apostate, i.e., one who could potentially ruin their con game). If so, best wishes in your struggles to remain true to yourself.]
but it wouldn't fly straight...
