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Religion as a protected class?

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
It seems more than reasonable, that no person or group should be discriminated against for what ever reason.
No prejudice or discrimination should be protected by law.
Equality of treatment should be protected.

However disabilities need to be mitigated either by special provisions or special support, depending on the circumstances.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
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Why should a religion be a protected class?
I don't think it should. OK, so you hold fervent religious beliefs that compel you to do some things and forbid you to do others. I cringe when I hear or read that, because it's usually said when somebody is doing something unkind to somebody because of religious bigotry. Why should society accommodate that? Let the religious adapt to secular society, which is happy to let them pray, read Bibles, gather in churches, marry in churches, wear religious icons, decorate their homes and businesses as they like, etc.. That should be enough for them, but many want more, and justify it by saying that it conflicts with their religious beliefs, which society should accommodate.

Also, do the religious deserve more than they give? They are often intolerant of others, like drag queens and LGBTQ+, who they are happy to discriminate against openly.
Religion requires faith, with faith not a very common characteristic of Atheists or Materials.
Rejection of belief by faith is a feature of critical thought, not a flaw. Skepticism has been one of the most important ideas in the history of thought. It transformed life and immensely boosted the human condition. In the meantime, faith has no wins. It has astrology, creationism, and alchemy, none of which have any value to man.
This implies there is an innate quality to being religious; unique neural disposition, that the Atheists have discriminated against for years.
It implies a failure to mature intellectually to develop critical thinking skills, without which, all belief is faith-based. It's how children think, and unfortunately, how many whether religious or not are kept in that juvenile state for lack of a formal education continue. We want to rise above that. And yes, skilled critical thinkers reject that kind of thinking.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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No, I just pointed having this protexted status more often than not is meaningless and toothless.
I'm not sure what you base this assessment on. Hard facts? Gut feelings? Cynicism? Truthfully, I don't actually care. Either way I don't abide the logic of "well, since it's more often than not useless, let's just get rid of protected classes" which is pretty much where we end up following this line of reasoning. There's no point to implementing ineffectual public policy. If it doesn't work, it should be gotten rid of. No more protected classes, for anyone. Discriminate at will!
 

tadcook

New Member
As I read through the SCOTUS, web designer thread in the NA Politics forum, it seems a number of spin off threads are worthy..

The idea of protected classes is now common in the law. Here's a typical list of protected classes:



It strikes me that "one of these is not like the others". All of these classes of people (except one), are based on immutable aspects of a person's identity that they are born with... except religion (and perhaps gender identity, but that's for a separate thread?)

So for this thread, I'm going to argue that - despite the fact that religious people have suffered enormous persecution historically - RELIGION SHOULD NO LONGER BE A PROTECTED CLASS.

A religion is just a set of ideas. A person can change the ideas they believe. Why should a religion be a protected class?

"It strikes me that "one of these is not like the others". All of these classes of people (except one), are based on immutable aspects of a person's identity that they are born with... except religion (and perhaps gender identity, but that's for a separate thread?)"


Protected classes are not “classes of people”.

Despite the common misconception, nobody, but nobody is ever “In” a protected class.

Protected classes, as defined in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 are classifications that the law applies to, not groups of people.

So race is a protected class, but the law does not protect some races but not others. Everyone has a racial identity, but the law does not protect only Blacks but not Whites. We all have equal protection under the law.

So discrimination based on religion is against the law. It does not protect some religions but not others.

There is no requirement in civil rights law that classes must be based on immutable characteristics.
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Everyone's capable of a gladhand and a hand out. Back to the OP. In fact, society could be narrowly defined as "We the People" easily. It is easy to even say Martin Luther King Jr. don't you think this united the American people? But the historical example is still relevant and prominent, talk of French separation of Church developed differently, a removal of the Church. "In Schools, Universities and public you ban crosses and headscarfs and all identification", identification is permissable much less... is that sociable, you're in a group in France, its not the French nation?

What has happened to all the Christianity's predating United States government? 1/3rd of Churches were New England Congregational at the Revolution Reformed/Calvinist and had a New England PResbyterian/Congregational union called the union of 1801. What happened to Anglican ministers who swam back across the ocean in religio-loyalty to King George. Perhaps 30,000 catholics existed at the American Revolution. Now the Fathers Creed when umbrella usage of Presbyterianism is applied, provides no protected class from Puritan Pilgrims or anything, in Religion this is not a equal footing among other Presbyterians, not equal representation. "My Country Tis of Thee". Thats silly, its silly to bring up that the native population is underserved in its branch of Communion by its Government.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
There is no requirement in civil rights law that classes must be based on immutable characteristics.

I think your summary of the law is accurate.

I'm not arguing what the law is, I'm arguing how it should be amended :)
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
I don't think it should. OK, so you hold fervent religious beliefs that compel you to do some things and forbid you to do others. I cringe when I hear or read that, because it's usually said when somebody is doing something unkind to somebody because of religious bigotry. Why should society accommodate that? Let the religious adapt to secular society, which is happy to let them pray, read Bibles, gather in churches, marry in churches, wear religious icons, decorate their homes and businesses as they like, etc.. That should be enough for them, but many want more, and justify it by saying that it conflicts with their religious beliefs, which society should accommodate.

Also, do the religious deserve more than they give? They are often intolerant of others, like drag queens and LGBTQ+, who they are happy to discriminate against openly.

Rejection of belief by faith is a feature of critical thought, not a flaw. Skepticism has been one of the most important ideas in the history of thought. It transformed life and immensely boosted the human condition. In the meantime, faith has no wins. It has astrology, creationism, and alchemy, none of which have any value to man.

It implies a failure to mature intellectually to develop critical thinking skills, without which, all belief is faith-based. It's how children think, and unfortunately, how many whether religious or not are kept in that juvenile state for lack of a formal education continue. We want to rise above that. And yes, skilled critical thinkers reject that kind of thinking.
What if state Atheism compelled French President Sarkozy to have 3 wives?

Sarkozy married his first wife, Marie-Dominique Culioli, on 23 September 1982;They had two sons. Sarkozy divorced Culioli in 1996, after they had been separated for several years.

Sarkozy met former fashion model and public relations executive Cécilia Ciganer-Albéniz. she left her husband for Sarkozy, and divorced one year later. She and Sarkozy married in October 1996 . They have one son, Louis, born 23 April 1997.Sarkozy and Cécilia ultimately divorced on 15 October 2007,

Less than a month after separating from Cécilia, Sarkozy met Italian-born singer, songwriter and former fashion model Carla Bruni at a dinner party, and soon entered into a relationship with her.[22] They married on 2 February 2008 It was the first time a French president has publicly had a child while in office.

Sarkozy and his wife Carla Bruni greet President Barack Obama at the G8 Summit


Napoleon is a famous philanderer so is his whatever Josephine and her boyfriends by British press in the Napoleonic Wars. Napoleon is the shrined origin of State and State atheism and Flag.

"Why should society accommodate that? Let the religious adapt to secular society, which is happy to let them pray, read Bibles, gather in churches, marry in churches, wear religious icons, decorate their homes and businesses as they like"

Every French President around that one looks like some sort of psychopath, a close bond with somebody.
 

lewisnotmiller

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Good to meet a fellow non-linear pedagogist! Do you use any CLA or eco-d concepts in your coaching? I've coached skiing and more recently golf, and I'm following CLA and eco-d guidelines.
Hmm....I don't know...lol
It wasn't something I came across as an explicit topic during my time as a teacher, but I think it's fair to say I'm utilizing a number of CLA concepts in my coaching these days. I'm going to openly admit, I have no idea what eco-d is, at this point.

But I guess it's easy enough to put to the test if I give a couple of examples of what I'm assuming are non-linear concepts.

Traditional basketball coaching has a mix of individual skill training (often pretty repetitive), strategic chalk-and-talk type stuff, set play design and practice, and then gameplay. It varies, coach to coach, but it's a common enough mix you probably know what I'm talking about. I imagine it's similar for a sport like soccer, but the controlled environment of a basketball court, and the relatively small number of players per team can make it even more so.

So...this season I got to step up and take a more serious coaching role than I've had previously. As part of that, I completed an accreditation course to a higher level than I had before. I also listened to a bunch of podcasts, and subscribed to some pretty good materials online. I know basketball, and I know teaching, and I've coached basketball for years, but I had a bit to learn about coaching at a higher level, so I invested time.

A couple of key concepts really spoke to me.
1) I didn't want my team to play in a rigid fashion, either offensively or defensively. I wanted to develop their ability to read the play, and react within team guidelines, but I didn't want to run a lot of set plays, and I didn't want to play any sort of junk defences. One reason for that is that it would make us much harder to scout as the season went on, since even I would have less tight control of the team. If I don't know the exact play about to be run, not much chance our opposition coach could know. Of course, making it a free for all wouldn't work either. That took a lot of effort, designing where we wanted to get to offensively and defensively. Watched a lot of tape, spent a few weeks with the team before finalising, etc. The other key benefit of this approach is that the kids are developing transferable basketball skills, so if their next coach plays a different system to mine, they will adapt easily. Whereas getting kids from rigid, overcoached systems is an exercise in de-programming...lol

2) If I expected the kids to make good reads on the fly, then I needed to structure my practice in a way to encourage good reads on the fly. Repetitive skills drills weren't going to cut it (they have a place, just not so much in my team training sessions) and we needed to break apart the drills in very explicit ways.

So...it was kind of as simple as that. The offence (err...4-1 motion with the big mostly weak side, apart from flash posts. DHO's from slot to wing rather than screening for the most part - just in case you're a basketball nerd) allows the girls to make constant reads and movements within a small set of rules.
Every time you pass, make a cut to the opposite corner. We shorten that to 'Pass left, cut right. Pass right, cut left.'
When doing a DHO, valid actions are to hand off and pop, hand off and roll, fake the hand off.
When attacking the hoop, drive hard and take your shot. But if the defence leaves our big (lurking weakside) to stop the ball, make sure you dump it down.

Meh, so on. There are a bunch of rules. Write them all out, and they appear a little daunting, I guess (although probably obvious enough to a decent baller). But we've obviously taught those over time, using a concept of 'progressions'.
With the offence, the first progression was simply knowing where the spots on the floor were, who needed to be in which spot (which is very loose in my team...the 5 plays weak side, the other 4 players just arrange themselves in slots and wings. Again, not giving the other team a consistent look) and where to cut to after making a pass. Once we had those things in place, we started running the offence in games. It wasn't great, of course, but we were immediately moving on to our next progression in training, and getting better at it as we went.

In any case, taking this back to training, and there were a couple of important things. One, I needed to be very explicit about certain things, including language, and points of emphasis. I needed to be pretty relaxed on everything else. Target the next progression, which was basically a bundle of skills, language, and understandings...not so much a, then b, then c. More like 'Once we finish Progression 1, we have enough to use this in our games, and we'll develop it through the season'.

So the drills were targeted to be game-like, but controlled. Simple example, but I'd have player A attack the hoop, player B lurking on the weak side (where they would be in the game) and have a coach playing defence. Initially, we'd go slow, and the coach would move to defend one player or the other. The ballhandler had to make the read, and either take the shot themselves, or dump the pass down after the defence committed. As we went along, we developed that drill. We would change the angles, add more players, etc.

Another example was that we wanted to make our defence tougher and more physical (we play full court man, which is hard work...lol). So we played a game where instead of shooting, the offensive team just had to dribble the ball into the key to score. The defence had to hold tennis balls in each hand (so they couldn't easily slap or grab) but were allowed to bump and block with their bodies, as long as they moved their feet, and slid in front of their opponents.

Basically a combination of adjusting the environment to some degree (or the parameters) as well as the task design itself. And constantly starting with less complex decisions at slower pace, explicitly calling out the decision points, then ramping up the pace and complexity.

Apart from getting the chance to work with some brilliant coaches this year, I was also listening to a podcast called 'Sweat the Technique' which was pretty interesting. Concepts like explicit language (eg. don't tell a kid to hustle when they're beaten off the dribble...explain exactly what you're expecting them to do, show them, practice it, etc), which Doug Lemov is big on. And some stuff around progressive coaching, which was interesting, although it dealt with hard to control environments (surf coaching) with Ru Hill. And some pretty interesting basic sports psych from Dan Abrahams. Anyway, definitely an interesting set of podcasts. (it's on the Branch Network).

And if I bored the pants off you with all that...err...sorry. Basketball, and basketball coaching are my passions.

As for discimination: For me, this has come mostly in the domain of teaching STEM-ish topics for adults. Despite being able to provide strong evidence of success, most publishers and corporations will not consider non-linear teaching approaches. I've run into this countless times over many years.
Yeah, okay. Adult teaching is....different. I studied it a bit at university, and have done plenty of adult training through my job, but as a former primary teacher it was always a little hard to see people with a cert-IV (err...basically a training diploma) as having the sort of background to get too deep into why they did things the way they did. They taught more via a structured approach because that's how they were taught to. Hmm...I'm wording that badly. Certainly some teachers lack inventiveness and reasons for their approach. But trainers seems to commonly fall into that bucket.
 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
And if I bored the pants off you with all that...err...sorry. Basketball, and basketball coaching are my passions.
Not bored at all, I love this stuff.

So "eco-d" is short for for ecological dynamics. A brief summary would be that it's important for practice to be as close to the actual sport environment as possible, and not try to separate and isolate skill acquisition exercises from the actual environment.

It sounds like you're doing that! Another key principle is to favor exploration. I like to say "try crazy stuff". We acquire skills more efficiently when our motor systems have experienced all sorts of situations. Of course the crazy stuff still has to consider the real environment. So "running cones" is viewed as too separate from reality to be useful. But games like 3 on 2's or 3 on 3's are great ways to explore.

Another facet you didn't mention is learning individual skills like shooting free throws or passing. Eco-d pushes back hard against the biomechanics orientation. In this case biomechanics means things like "there is a right way to make this shot" or "there is a correct sequence of muscle movements to perform this pass". The reality is that top performers demonstrate that every "go" they perform is unique and not biomechanically consistent or "perfect". So again, eco-d favors movement explorations.

Another big problem with the bio-mech approach is that things happen too fast for our conscious minds to give instructions in real time. So advice like "cock your wrist" or "bend your knees" cannot be implemented in real-time. If anything, we have to find ways to distract the athlete's conscious mind so that their motor systems can perform without ego-driven, late-to-the-party, internal coaching voices.

much more can be discussed ;)
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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Premium Member
What if state Atheism compelled French President Sarkozy to have 3 wives?
Sounds like a bad idea. I'm a humanist. We advocate for democracy, tolerance, and freedom over authoritarianism. From the Affirmations of Humanism: "We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence ..."

How does that question relate to treating the religious as a protected class? Do you think that the religious should have more rights than those I enumerated? Many of them do. Should employers be forbidden to discriminate against hiring prospective religious employees given the Supreme Court's recent ruling that it is legal for a religious person to discriminate against a prospective customer, that nobody should be forced to compromise his conscience?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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:facepalm:If I didn't say people need to quit with the bs assumptions.
Curiously ironic, given I didn't say you said that and this entire pointless conversation started with... actually, never mind. Par for the course, keep on batting a thousand, Shadow. Never change. :shrug:
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
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Premium Member
Not bored at all, I love this stuff.

So "eco-d" is short for for ecological dynamics. A brief summary would be that it's important for practice to be as close to the actual sport environment as possible, and not try to separate and isolate skill acquisition exercises from the actual environment.

It sounds like you're doing that! Another key principle is to favor exploration. I like to say "try crazy stuff". We acquire skills more efficiently when our motor systems have experienced all sorts of situations. Of course the crazy stuff still has to consider the real environment. So "running cones" is viewed as too separate from reality to be useful. But games like 3 on 2's or 3 on 3's are great ways to explore.

Another facet you didn't mention is learning individual skills like shooting free throws or passing. Eco-d pushes back hard against the biomechanics orientation. In this case biomechanics means things like "there is a right way to make this shot" or "there is a correct sequence of muscle movements to perform this pass". The reality is that top performers demonstrate that every "go" they perform is unique and not biomechanically consistent or "perfect". So again, eco-d favors movement explorations.

Another big problem with the bio-mech approach is that things happen too fast for our conscious minds to give instructions in real time. So advice like "cock your wrist" or "bend your knees" cannot be implemented in real-time. If anything, we have to find ways to distract the athlete's conscious mind so that their motor systems can perform without ego-driven, late-to-the-party, internal coaching voices.

much more can be discussed ;)

Hmm...that's actually all pretty interesting, although we might almost be at the 'new thread' stage. But since it's your OP...lol...

Small-sided games are what we'd refer to them as in basketball coaching out here (probably universally) and I particularly like stacking the teams a little. So (as you said) 3 on 2's are a great way to teach offensive players to get into dangerous spots when they don't have the ball, for players to look for open players, AND for defenders to hedge between players as much as possible. I basically don't use cones, as it was a strong communication made to me early on that they represented short cuts to good drills. Basically, almost any drill using a cone or two can be improved by removing the cone and adding something the players will come across in games. Actual players, most often.

I use them as marking points for where drills should kick off from sometimes, but that's about it. When playing small sided games, I'll commonly get the offense to crowd together rather than spread nicely into their starting positions. Toss the ball to a kid at random, and organising themselves on the fly becomes part of the drill. Doesn't help their ballhandling, but it certainly helps communication, and getting to their spots with some urgency.

The biomechanics thing is interesting to me though. I don't coach a lot of it, since I only have my team for a couple of hours worth of practice per week (plus 2 games per week). So we emphasise small elements of positioning, etc, at the start of drills, but not so much in a biomechanics sense. An example would be defensive positioning, level of force to play with, how to bump the hip of a turning ballhandler without being called for a foul, etc. But the pure biomechanics of shooting, etc, I spend very little time on. I'd like to say that's because I have a strong belief that I'm optimising my time, but it's not really. More that the players can get really high quality individual coaching outside their team on specific skills. My daughter (for example) had 5 training sessions last week. 2 with me, 3 in a small group setting with a Canadian import who focused heavily on ballhandling and finishing drills.

Interesting to think there might actually be a more valid reason to not focus on biomechanics than merely time and the fact that the kids can optionally access better skills coaches than me...lol
 

Angelical

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The 3 branches of Government represent 3 branches of Law, and then the Execution of them. This is what they were really trying to teach you in school.

1. Fundamental Law: this is the Constitution, article III Judges, article II Congress, etc

2. Statutory Law: Acts of Congress becoming codified Laws, this is what most people mislabel "The Law".

3. Case Law: Judges decide what "The Law" says, what it doesn't say, what it means, and how that fits with the Constitution. Case Law can overturn "The Law", using Fundamental Law.

Our founding Fathers said that we can create Religions... Establish new Sects... they even said we can have 2 Religions, and more than 1 God.
Establishment Clause

Here are the Federal Guidelines to use Religious Substances, because there is no such thing as a "banned" substance in the US. The DEA was forced unwillingly by the Supreme Court to create this process in 2006.

THE GUIDELINES
https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/pubs/rfra_exempt_022618.pdf

Leary v. United States, 395 U.S. 6 (1969); Gonzales v. O Centro Espírita Beneficente União do Vegetal, 546 U.S. 418 (2006); Church of the Holy Light of the Queen v. Mukasey, 615 F. Supp. 2d 1210 (D. Or. 2009); State v. Balzer, 954 P.2d 931 (Wash. Ct. App. 1998) (This is a case that was reversed because the defendant showed Marijuana was part of his Religion, and that they didn't prove that he was willingly in possession of Cocaine that he had when he said he didn't know he had it); Untitled Texas Attorney General Opinion, GA-0384 (Tex. Att'y Gen. 2005); Gonzales v. Raich, 545 U.S. 1 (2005) (affirming that Congress may regulate personal Marijuana use as Interstate Trade); Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, 573 US ___(2014) (ACA held to be in Violation of Religious Right to believe Fetuses have Souls); Mellouli v. Lynch, 575 US ___(2015) (A case using the Cocaine Tax Law/Harrison Tax Act where the CSA is not definitive, showing the CSA is a generational member of a family of Laws, and not some alien lifeform immune to Fundamental Law); Linder v. United States, 268 US 5 (1925) (Harrison Narcotics case Stating "direct control of Medical practice in the States is beyond the power of the Federal Government"); Dent v. West Virginia, 129 U.S. 114 (1889) (Attainder case, and first case to mandate State Licensed Medical Doctors, and State Medical Boards)

Title 21 Code of Federal Regulations PART 1307 — MISCELLANEOUS SPECIAL EXEMPT PERSONS §1307.31

State v. Mooney, 2004 UT 49 (2004) (This is the Peyote Way Church in Utah, where the court discusses both the racism of Congress regulating Religious Peyote by Blood Quantum, and the fact that laws not exempting religion explicitly are not stopping a religious exemption, if a law does not forbid religious use it is in fact biased towards an exemption. This is a Non-Native winning a Religious Peyote case on the State level. see also Peyote Way Church of God, Inc. v. Meese, 698 F. Supp. 1342 (N.D. Tex. 1988)); United States v. Boyll, 774 F. Supp. 1333 (D.N.M. 1991) (In this case the court discusses how Congress regulating Peyote use by Blood Quantum is racist and unacceptable. This is a Non-Native winning a Religious Peyote case on the Federal level); Marc Perkel v. DOJ, 08-74457 (9th Cir. 2010) (This was a case about the first ever Petition submitted to the DEA after the process was created in 2006); United States v. Quaintance, 471 F. Supp. 2d 1153 (D.N.M. 2006) (This case discusses the difference between Philosophy and Religion); State v. Pedersen, 679 N.W.2d 368 (Minn. Ct. App. 2004) (This was a case with a couple who claimed Marijuana use was part of their Religion, then brought doctors in to present a medical defense. The Court determined they were not part of a Religion, or COMITY INTER GENTES, but a personal belief); Olsen v. Drug Enforcement Administration, 878 F.2d 1458 (D.C. Cir. 1989) (This was Carl Olson of the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church, it is a Rastafarian group and he Petitioned the DEA when the Federal law was much different than it is today see also Commonwealth v. Nissenbaum, 536 N.E.2d 592 (Mass. 1989)); United States v. Jefferson, 175 F. Supp. 2d 1123 (N.D. Ind. 2001) (This is a person who wanted to use Marijuana anywhere all the time on Probation); United States v. Sherryanne Christie, 14-10233 (9th Cir. 2016) (These were Religious Ministers selling for Recreational use to anyone); United States v. Kuch, 288 F. Supp. 439 (D.D.C. 1968) (This is a Criminal case involving Marijuana and LSD, involving a church that had literature, but no restrictions whatsoever and little if not no theology); United States v. ARTICLE OR DEVICE, ETC., 333 F. Supp. 357 (D.D.C. 1971) (This is a case where the Government sued the E-meter calling it and Scientology harmful to the Public, but they were following FDA guidelines and saying it was not a medical treatment, so the United States lost); People of Guam v. Benny Toves Guerrero, 290 F.3d 1210 (9th Cir. 2002) (This is a case where the Guam Supreme Court declared Rastifarian Possession of large amounts of Marijuana was protected by the RFRA, and the US Federal Court overturned it only saying that the RFRA doesn't apply to a territory since it isn't written to apply to territories only Federal Law not local Territorial Law)
 
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