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Religion Has Nothing to Do With Science

Religion has nothing to do with science.

  • True

    Votes: 19 43.2%
  • Untrue

    Votes: 25 56.8%

  • Total voters
    44

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm going to take the position that religion has nothing to do with science.

Do you disagree?
Why?

There are many hospitals affiliated with religious organizations. There are schools owned by religious organizations which include science as part of their curriculum. I daresay that most religious bodies are not quite so anti-science as the ones we usually hear about.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Oh, religion has much to do with science.

Very much indeed.

At its best, religion benefits from science, as do all other fields of human activity. And since religion is a varied activity that focuses on the interaction between people, it benefits first and foremost from the scientific findings that involve human health, quality of life in general, learning and motivation, as well as economy, ecology, psychology, sociology and anthropology generally. Even political science.

At its worst, "religion" tries to give orders to its benefactor out of misguided pride and delusions.

^ excellent post
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I'm going to take the position that religion has nothing to do with science.

Do you disagree?
Why?
I disagree.
There are many aspects of life. All are interconnected, that doesn't mean they have to interfere with one another unnecessarily. Right, please?

Regards
 

leov

Well-Known Member
There are many hospitals affiliated with religious organizations. There are schools owned by religious organizations which include science as part of their curriculum. I daresay that most religious bodies are not quite so anti-science as the ones we usually hear about.
"nothing to do" does not mean not accepting proven science, especially medicine.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It actually isn't. But those do tend not to be very influential in a political sense.

The majority of religious follow abrahamic ideas. Others follow other faith based doctrine. Very few are not faith based
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Here's my take: Humans are confronted by the experience of living, which is at the very least is very difficult if not impossible to understand in all its facets.

Science is the more or less organized investigation of the mystery of life. Art is the expression of our wonder and relationship with that mystery. Religion is acknowledgement that "life, the universe and everything" is a mystery we will never completely understand; religion at least in part consists of ritualized patterns of behavior rooted in our relationships to and interaction with other aspects of the mystery we can never understand.

To me, we should not separate these three aspects of our experience...they should intertwine...even if we do occasionally need to hold one apart in order to better understand or create meaning with it.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Science is based on observation and experiment in the natural world, not on guesses, dreams and faith
Actually, this is not true. The scientist must first enter into the world of imagination, prior to evidences supporting that vision, in order to device tests and experiments to see if his guesses, dreams and faith can be supported scientifically. It all begins with a vision or dream.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I don't agree that religion and science are opposed. Take an obvious example, the Dalai Lama who said very clearly that if science disproves a Buddhist idea, he'll drop the idea in favor of what science discovers.

There are also many scientific believers. They have no trouble reconciling both. I count myself amongst their number.

Handy thing about most religions: their tenets are unfalsifiable. Some people take that to mean that those tenets are therefore true.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
OP: "Religion Has Nothing to Do With Science"
I am surpised at the statement. Is religion pure humbug?
Religion and science are the two opponents to each other.
Beg to differ. In that case only one is true. Which one?
Religion can go where science can not address though.
Religion, most of the time, goes into the world of fantasy. Science does not go there.
There are as many if not more scientific theories as to the origin of our universe as there are religious bodies, such as Abrahamic, Christianity, Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
There is one in Hinduism which does not even accept creation.
If world is an illusion (maya), then there is no creation. My view goes with science, completely.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Beg to differ. In that case only one is true. Which one?
Science is only about the physical world whereas religion teaches higher truth about what life really is.
Science can not even understand that what human eyes are seeing is a false truth about this reality. So in my understanding science only can be applied to the physical realm, not other nonphysical realms, because the physical law in this universe does not work in other universe or dimensions
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I'm going to take the position that religion has nothing to do with science.

Do you disagree?
Why?
it does if you believe science is infallible and absolute, or use science based on majority of percentages.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The majority of religious follow abrahamic ideas. Others follow other faith based doctrine. Very few are not faith based
We ought to discuss these matters at some length sometime, Christine.

For now, let's just say that I think that I see where you come from, but I respectfully think also that you underestimate the true diversity of creeds out there.

I say this with the utmost respect. You know that I value your perspective.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
I'm going to take the position that religion has nothing to do with science.

Do you disagree?
Why?
I would agree with that.

Simply looking at the definition of science:

- the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Religion doesn't do any of that. Furthermore how often have you heard or read any scientific study stating that they are going to use the "Religious method" to examine the natural world? :)

This is no critic of religion, but these are just not the same things, working in the same field.
 
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