Religion & Politics--What's the Diff?

[ThePainefulTruth]

Thanks for your post "Painful"...I guess I overlooked that "e".. Should be maybe "Paine full"

I don't belong to a "church" I'm a Baha'i...

"In the Bahá'í Faith, religious history is seen to have unfolded through a series of divine messengers."

If that's correct, then Baha'i is just another revealed religion.

Partisanship relates though in my view to political parties in the arena we witness almost daily.. not getting much done as a Congress or Senate...

Good to hear though you're in a neighboring state...

You might want to take another look at the IPCC figures on Carbon Dioxide at

http://www.ipcc-data.org/observ/ddc_co2.html

That doesn't relate to the conclusion on the graph--global cooling. Can't you see that we're just the victim of political games? Why should we trust any of this, crisis management, fear?

as well as the US EPA reports on the South West:

Even if that's true, how can we trust the politically motivated EPA, which can dump massive toxic waste in the Colorado River and claim no harm done. In any case, all that is only local, not evidence of a centuries long global trend.

I think Arizona is still part of the Southwest.

Arizona has actually been cooler recently, but drier.

Arizona State University had a panel not long ago discussing the impact of Climate Change on Arizona.. Here's a portion of what was said.

What we’re seeing in that extreme, what we’re seeing in our wild fires–biggest wild fire ever in Arizona and New Mexico both this year. Both of those fires and other fires in our fair states were dwarfed by the fires that occurred in Texas. They’ve been going on for the whole fire season. What we’re seeing in the news now are ones that are close to Austin.

"This year"? In this area?!......c'mon.

And you know this ... how? What sort of scientific evidence can you provide to support your assertion?

It started in the 70s with the rapidly alternating Ice Age, global warming crises. Then when the USSR collapse, they made made the full court press to exploiting the "crisis" with nothing but anecdotal evidence and computer models that are easily manipulated by adjusting the variables that had no basis to begin with. We have human caused global warming on Mars--unless it isn't human caused. Never mind the Sun. But better be safe than sorry. And it's obvious we'll all be better off if the Democrats who are the friend of the people are in charge--never mind they take as much or more money from the special interests than the establishment Republicans. Can you say Solyndra.

And for the sake of clarity: Are you asserting that human activity cannot impact the climate, or that it merely hasn't so far?

I'm saying that there's no evidence for it so far, and it's much more likely that it's nothing but human fallibility, just like religion. "You give me some of your crops and I'll keep the gods at bay." Blind faith, stage 2. Look to the Sun.

Climate change can be debated in the context of the evidence. Religion requires no evidence whatsoever. In fact, faith can be characterized as belief in lieu of evidence.

Manufactured evidence. Blind faith is a carpet that covers an infinite amount of embarrassing evidence.

Wait. There's a clash between those who accept evolution as the best current explanation for speciation ... and those who accept the idea that human activity impacts the global climate?

?????

You've failed to demonstrate that politics is the mirror image of religion. Sorry.

You're saying there's no blind faith in politics?

 

[arthra]

Paine full instead of posting cartoons why not deal with evidence...?

See:

http://spaceref.com/earth/arctic-sea-ice-summertime-minimum-is-fourth-lowest-on-record.htm

And check out the University of Arizona report:

lhttp://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/30043293/u-of-a-finds-that-sierra-nevada-snow-pack-lowest-in-centuries

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Paine full instead of posting cartoons why not deal with evidence...?

All good humor is founded in fact, and sometimes gets through where straightforward reason can't. D'you feel the pinch eh? Note the penguin's newspaper headline about 15 years without warming, which just happens to reflect the IPCC graph I just posted--of all sources!!! And speaking of sources, UofA sux on gw, though I hear they do have a good cinematic arts dept., it having at least one professor I like. And only 5 hours from Hollywood.

 

[goodhunter819]

Isn’t that a bit of an unfair generalization saying that religion is a blind faith effect? whilst ignoring the practise of unconventional religions like that according to the first nations of America(s) or pagan faiths, What is the difference between religion and politics? It’s a simple answer that needs not to be complicated however once practising religion it can be complex? religion concentrates of the structure and perpetuation of the spiritual and the divine and that is the fundamental difference, the belief in the unseen during which period in whichever state it may be caused to manifest itself in what form it chooses, politics however is purely the effective propagation of human need the in social environment, politics does not offer any spiritual afterlife where as religion will, it is a simple difference , religion is about the spiritual realm where as politics is about the people needs and wants in the social environments and material statuses
In addition I works that I bring this point up:
I would like to address an issues I overheard when I young boy was talking to a young girl about the Siksika, let me say the Siksika, the Kainai people are not of any power ideology as it obviously propagates its political powers and works through political organisations as well as espousing of isms and I can without a doubt having read Siksika standpoint or for want of a better word their philosophy and I know that the Siksika people of Kainai do not espouse any isms and are not part of any organisations and do not propagate the functionaries of any politics, the Siksika practise their culture of religion through the One True Source Of Life that is above the that total control of man, saying right and Long Standing Bear is the Siksika Kainai chief, so No the Siksika are not about the political powers as was wrongly told to the young girl.