religion / praying a type of witchcraft?

[Cobol]

I think Prayer and magic are basically the same madness, seeking help from higher power.

One of these articles is about casting a magical spell, and the other is countering that spell with prayer.
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/magi...n-to-cast-midnight-spell-to-bind-trump_022017
Magical Resistance: Witches Plan to Cast Midnight Spell To “Bind” Trump
https://www.christiannationalism.com/2017/02/23/witches-plan-curse-president-trump/
Witches plan to curse Trump: We will counter with prayer. - Christian Nationalism

 

[jonathan180iq]

Secondary question, do either prayer or witchcraft actually accomplish any tangible tasks?

Do beliefs, and/or practice of said ideas, actually change anything at all?

 

[Cobol]

Here is a study showing prayer doesn't work.

Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP) in cardiac bypass patients: a multicenter randomized trial of uncertainty and certai... - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Quintessence]

I think Prayer and magic are basically the same madness, seeking help from higher power.

Except that they don't. Supplicatory prayer begs a "higher power" for aid. Spellcraft (the practice of magic) does not. Neither practice is indicative of madness.

Secondary question, do either prayer or witchcraft actually accomplish any tangible tasks?

Do beliefs, and/or practice of said ideas, actually change anything at all?

Yes, but this isn't the thread to discuss that so I'm going to leave it there. I'm also rarely in the mood to attempt to educate people about these practices. It's about as enjoyable as trying to educate a YEC about biological evolution.

 

[jonathan180iq]

It's about as enjoyable as trying to educate a YEC about biological evolution.

Personally, I love that sh!t - but I'm a bit of a glutton for punishment.

 

[1AOA1]

Secondary question, do either prayer or witchcraft actually accomplish any tangible tasks?

Do beliefs, and/or practice of said ideas, actually change anything at all?

All mental and spiritual phenomena have an effect.

 

[jonathan180iq]

All mental and spiritual phenomena have an effect.

What metric is used for gauging the accuracy of that statement?

 

[InChrist]

Maybe because he thinks that humans are not responsible enough to handle it? But weak enough to pray? I have no idea really..

Why are you equating prayer with weakness? Or that witchcraft requires more responsibility? In your OP didn't you insinuate that prayer is exactly the same as witchcraft?

 

[Muffled]

I think Prayer and magic are basically the same madness, seeking help from higher power.

One of these articles is about casting a magical spell, and the other is countering that spell with prayer.
Magical Resistance: Witches Plan to Cast Midnight Spell To “Bind” Trump
Witches plan to curse Trump: We will counter with prayer. - Christian Nationalism

I don't believe it is the same because we do not need to use craft. It is however spiritual warfare and we have the all powerful one on our side so we will always win.

 

[Muffled]

Secondary question, do either prayer or witchcraft actually accomplish any tangible tasks?

Do beliefs, and/or practice of said ideas, actually change anything at all?

I prayed that Communism would be defeated in Russia for many years and it still seems miraculous to me that it fell from within.

 

[Muffled]

Here is a study showing prayer doesn't work.

Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP) in cardiac bypass patients: a multicenter randomized trial of uncertainty and certai... - PubMed - NCBI

I believe that passes for stupidity. As the saying goes statistics don't lie but statisticians do.

 

[jonathan180iq]

I prayed that Communism would be defeated in Russia for many years and it still seems miraculous to me that it fell from within.

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