A simple test is to put a magazine on a bookshelf high enough that no one standing could see it. If the patients did have OBE and "float", they would be able to report what they saw. A pro-NDE research Group AWARE set up such a test.
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/aware-results-finally-published-no-evidence-of-nde/
AWARE Results Finally Published – No Evidence of NDE
Conclusion
The much anticipated AWARE study, designed to be the first large rigorous study of NDEs with objective outcomes that could potentially differentiate between the two major hypotheses, is essentially a bust. The study, for the main outcome measure for which it was designed, did not return as much data as was hoped, but the data it did return was entirely negative.
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Spinning of this study in the popular press as evidence of life after death is not justified.
jollybear said...
Theres a point we have got to say its not fudged, something real is happening.
The study found...
Theres a point we have got to say oops, there is nothing really happening.
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Methods and Results
The AWARE study has two objectives,
(1) to examine the incidence of awareness and the variety of mental experiences during cardiac arrest (CA) resuscitation, and
(2) to develop a methodology to test the accuracy of reports of visual and auditory perceptionduring CA. The study began in 2008 and, over the first four years, examined 2,060 patients from 15 hospitals in the UK, the US and Austria.
Cardiac arrest survivors were
interviewed in three stages, (1) to
determine if there were memories or perceptions during the CA, (2) to
determine if the memories or perceptions constituted an NDE (with or without auditory/visual awareness), and (3) to
verify the accuracy of any auditory/visual perceptions of the physical environment that were experienced during the NDE.
To assess the accuracy of claims of visual awareness (VA),
50 to 100 shelves were installed in each hospitalnear the ceiling of areas where CA resuscitation was likely to occur. Each shelf had an image that was visible only from above the shelf. The study's hypothesis was that
the images on the shelves could potentially test the validity of claims of accurate VA,
provided enough cases of NDEs occurred where the patient had visual awareness from a vantage point high enough to see the image.
Of the 2,060 patients in the study,
only 140 survived and were well enough to have a Stage 1 interview. Of these 140, 39 were not able to complete the Stage 2 interview, mostly due to fatigue.
Of the remaining 101 patients interviewed in Stage 2, only 9 were deemed to have had an NDE (9%) and of these 9 NDErs,
only two reported memories of auditory/visual awareness of the physical environment. Of these two,
one was not able to follow up with an in-depth Stage 3 interview due to ill health.
The other patient had verified perceptions of CA events:
- During the NDE, the patient felt quite euphoric.
- The patient heard an automated voice saying "Shock the patient, shock the patient."
- The patient rose near the ceiling and looked down on his physical body, the nurse and another man, bald and "quite a chunky fella", who wore blue scrubs and a blue hat. The patient could tell the man was bald because of where the hat was.
- The next day, the patient recognized the bald man who attended him during the resuscitation.
- The medical record confirmed the use of an AED (Automated External Defibrillator) that would give the automated instructions the patient heard and the role that the identified man played during the resuscitation.
Unfortunately,
both cases of CA NDEs with auditory/visual awareness occurred in non-acute areas of the hospital, without shelves, so further analysis of the accuracy of VA was not possible"
AWARE study initial results are published!
In my own words: more research, to a brouder scope of types of sick people need to be tested on.
Second, when a NDEr comes out of there body, lets be real, the last thing on there mind is a magazine on a shelf.