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Religious bias with laws and society, favored or unfavored

Many questions from the title:)

In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in the law?
Do you think it should?

In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in social interactions and society beside the law?
Do you think it should?

Do you give any religions or philosophy a favored position in your life?
Do you think you should or why do you do or not?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think religion has an unhealthy influence over law.

Particularly when it affects lawmakers themselves on a personal level who are subject to religious penalties and the like.

Denying communion for example in an attempt to force one's hand in a religious direction.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Many questions from the title:)

In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in the law?
Do you think it should?

In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in social interactions and society beside the law?
Do you think it should?

Do you give any religions or philosophy a favored position in your life?
Do you think you should or why do you do or not?

1) It (I am answering this from the perspective of one religion, not all, and my own specifically) does not have a privileged position in the law of my nation. I think that it should ideally, although actually doing that is likely not prudent currently.

2) It does not have privilege socially all over but in some spots it probably does. I think that it should ideally but such if it occurs I doubt will last as the religion is meant to have enemies and be at enmity with the world, the flesh, and the demons.

3) I do so a lot and in a hierarchy and I think that I should do so. St. Paul said: "as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who belong to the household of faith."

St. Thomas Aquinas expounds the point: "because we cannot do good to everyone, he presents the order in which it is to be done, when he adds: but especially to those who are of the household of the faith, who, namely, are not only akin to us in nature but united by faith and grace... Therefore mercy must be extended to everyone but preferably to the just who share in the faith, because it is said: but if any man does not have care of his own and especially those of his house, he has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel [quoting St. Paul again]."

Concerning my word "hierarchy," this means that for instance, if I were hiring for a job and all the candidates were otherwise equal except in religion I would rather select the Catholic first, then the Eastern Orthodox, then the Old Orthodox, then the Oriental Orthodox, then the Assyrian Orthodox (and divisions within them at random), then the Old Catholics... and so on, each religion being selected in order to it's proximity to my own, until something was intolerable.

This social privilege also applies to many other more practical things in my life, such as who I give deferrence to, those who I perceive to be theologically or philosophically (I add philosophy here for there are certain wise atheists who have absolutely no theological ability who I similarly give deferrence to) superior to me I do. Those wiser than me and with virtues I likewise do, and so on. This can include doing what they say when I ask them for advice, being more likely to spend time with them or aid them, etc. Just general social privilege.

I think I should do this especially to those who have fed me knowledge for "honor your father and your mother," in addition to all said above.

All the above is my opinion.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
I think religion has an unhealthy influence over law.

Particularly when it affects lawmakers themselves on a personal level who are subject to religious penalties and the like.

Denying communion for example in an attempt to force one's hand in a religious direction.
See : "tax the church "
 
I think religion has an unhealthy influence over law.

Particularly when it affects lawmakers themselves on a personal level who are subject to religious penalties and the like.

Denying communion for example in an attempt to force one's hand in a religious direction.

What is denying communion? How can they not let it personally change them when they live it always
 
1) It (I am answering this from the perspective of one religion, not all, and my own specifically) does not have a privileged position in the law of my nation. I think that it should ideally, although actually doing that is likely not prudent currently.

2) It does not have privilege socially all over but in some spots it probably does. I think that it should ideally but such if it occurs I doubt will last as the religion is meant to have enemies and be at enmity with the world, the flesh, and the demons.

3) I do so a lot and in a hierarchy and I think that I should do so. St. Paul said: "as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who belong to the household of faith."

St. Thomas Aquinas expounds the point: "because we cannot do good to everyone, he presents the order in which it is to be done, when he adds: but especially to those who are of the household of the faith, who, namely, are not only akin to us in nature but united by faith and grace... Therefore mercy must be extended to everyone but preferably to the just who share in the faith, because it is said: but if any man does not have care of his own and especially those of his house, he has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel [quoting St. Paul again]."

Concerning my word "hierarchy," this means that for instance, if I were hiring for a job and all the candidates were otherwise equal except in religion I would select the Catholic first, then the Eastern Orthodox, then the Old Orthodox, then the Oriental Orthodox, then the Assyrian Orthodox (and divisions within them at random), then the Old Catholics... and so on, each religion being selected in order to it's proximity to my own, until something was intolerable.

This social privilege also applies to many other more practical things in my life, such as who I give deferrence to, those who I perceive to be theologically or philosophically (I add philosophy here for there are certain wise atheists who have absolutely no theological ability who I similarly give deferrence to) superior to me I do. Those wiser than me and with virtues I likewise do, and so on. This can include doing what they say when I ask them for advice, being more likely to spend time with them or aid them, etc. Just general social privilege.

I think I should do this especially to those who have fed me knowledge for "honor your father and your mother," in addition to all said above.

All the above is my opinion.

Do you think people with other God ideas are not as good as you?
I think a random hat is more fair:)
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Many questions from the title:)

In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in the law?
Yes.
Do you think it should?
No.
In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in social interactions and society beside the law?
Yes.
Do you think it should?
No.
Do you give any religions or philosophy a favored position in your life?
Yes.
Do you think you should or why do you do or not?
My philosophy only influences my life. I don't impose it on others.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in the law?

Yes, in England there are 26 serving bishops and a random number of retired bishops who sit in the house of lords and stamp there approval/disapproval on any proposed law. So yes, the church of England has a huge favoured position.

However i now live in france which has no such religious sway with government despite the fact the Catholic church is quite dominant.

Do you think it should?

No. England is a multiethnic country with many different religions.

As to France, again no for the same reason

In your country do you think religions have a favored position over everyone in social interactions and society beside the law?

Yes for England.
Yes but less so for france. The french government tax churches for any money making/raising scheme not related to worship. So things like church fundraising gatherings are as rare as hens teeth.

Do you think it should?

No.

Do you give any religions or philosophy a favored position in your life?

Nope.

Do you think you should or why do you do or not?

No, religion has done nothing for me and mine other than dish out hurt. Im not one to return the favour but i certainly won't be giving them favour.

I am atheist, is that a favoured position, I don't think so, irs just the way it is.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
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Do you give any religions or philosophy a favored position in your life?
Do you think you should or why do you do or not?

Publius Tacitus allegedly said: "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." I agree with that. And that is the reason why I like Bible, because it basically has only one Law:

Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet," [TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"] and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 13:8-10

Simple and good. :)
 
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