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"Religious Conservatives Lash Out at Kellogg’s Over 'Anti-Christian' Cereal"

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I hate to sound old-fashioned but a cereal promoting LGBT rights is...err... kind of "weird"..

I mean, most adults avoid the conversation about "where babies come from" and look awkwardly at each other. They skip the whole "When a guy likes a guy, or a girl likes a girl..." side of the discussion because that's generally too advanced even for most adults.

So it's a strange situation when reading the back of a Cereal Box is now part of a child's sex education. Just...think about that for a second... :confused:
How is “don’t treat gay people awfully” sex education?
I mean geez I know the American stereotype is that your sex education is so pathetic even nuns point and laugh, but telling kids not to bully people typically falls under “life skills” not sex education.
 

Milton Platt

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"Kellogg’s recently announced that it would be selling six of its most popular cereals in one box for a promotion called “All Together” while making a $50,000 donation to support anti-bullying and advocacy causes on behalf of GLAAD Spirit Day.

So if you’re the sort of person who loves Frosted Flakes and Frosted Mini Wheats (what is wrong with you), then you’re in luck!


BelongTogetherCereal.png



We all belong together. So for the first time in history, our famous mascots and cereals are offered exclusively together in the same box for All Together Cereal. It’s a symbol of acceptance no matter how you look, where you’re from or who you love.
Sure. I mean, they’re just selling you six boxes of cereal, at least two of which no real human should ever want, but if it’s for a good cause, I’ll suck it up and have some Raisin Bran. If you’re cynical, you just shrug this off as a corporate attempt to sell you something in the name of a good cause. But it’s also a good sign when large companies throw their support behind groups like GLAAD.

No wonder conservative Christians are furious.

The three moms at One Million Moms (Twitter count: 3759) have already launched a protest.

Kellogg’s has supported the homosexual community for a long time, and now it is obvious they are going after our children… Kellogg’s goal is to normalize the LGBTQ lifestyle by using cereal mascots to brainwash children. The company is also donating $50,000 to GLAAD to support its anti-bullying and LGBTQ advocacy work.

These people seriously think Tony the Tiger will make you gay. (Snap, Crackle, and Pop AND Toucan Sam? That’s bestiality AND incest!)

Creationist Ken Ham also chimed in since he wasn’t busy updating his exhibits.


We are not "All together," as the LGBTQ lifestyle/worldview is anti-God, anti-biblical & anti-science and consists of only a small minority in the culture. But many will "All Together" not support such in your face anti-Christian marketing!
Imagine seeing a cereal box and thinking it’s a form of Christian Persecution. Imagine how flimsy your worldview must be when a smiling sun threatens everything you stand for. Imagine being a Creationist and calling other people “anti-science.” No wonder Ham looks so angry all the time…

Anyway, buy the cereal or don’t. But revel in the fact that some Christians are whining because a cereal company said people should be kind to one another.

They could easily be mad about the amount of sugar in this stuff, but they’ve chosen to attack the message of acceptance and inclusion instead.
source
Considering that

"In 2018, Kellogg's global operating profit amounted to about 1.71 billion U.S. dollars."
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Their $50,000 donation is chump change.

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I don't normally even eat cereals. Now I'm going to have to buy a box of this.......
Yeah....$50,000 from a company the size of Kellogs is just silly.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Yep, children would never type those letters into a search engine and become exposed to gay is best propaganda
What would "exposition to gay" even be, and why would anyone have a defensable reason to avoid it?

LGBTQ diversity exists. People should learn from a young age to be aware and accepting it.

That is really the long and short of it far as I am concerned.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I don't normally even eat cereals. Now I'm going to have to buy a box of this.......
Yeah....$50,000 from a company the size of Kellogs is just silly.
The money is clearly secondary in significance to the existence of the stance in and of itself.

Kellogs is about as much a part of mainstream, "core" American lives as any big company might want to be. And here they are hinting at awareness and support of the reality of the LGBTIQ spectrum.

To some people that ought to sound terribly unsettling. But it is really about time.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
My how Kellogg's has changed over the years:

'Mr Kellogg, the man who created Corn Flakes, produced the cereal in the late 19th century and marketed it as a “healthy, ready-to-eat anti-masturbatory morning meal”.'

Corn Flakes created to ‘stop masturbation’

EDIT: I can't help myself. Even more from that article:

"He was a Seventh-day Adventist and worked as a physician who staunchly believed in celibacy and that sex was unhealthy and immoral.

Mr Kellogg was such a firm believer that sex was damaging to the mind and body that he slept in a separate room from his wife and never consummated the marriage, choosing instead to adopt all their children.

So if having sex with your wife was bad, then masturbation was just about as sinful as you could get.

“If illicit commerce of the sexes is a heinous sin, self-pollution is a crime doubly abominable,” Mr Kellogg wrote.":eek::eek::eek:

And one of the symptoms of excessive masturbation:

". . . a fondness for spicy food."

And here I was considering making a vindaloo tonight.

It sounds like old man Kellogg did not enjoy any aspect of life. I would love to see his reaction to this.
 
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Laika

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Why should it be weird for anyone to promote rights?

Its a corporation. Not a person. Corporations don’t have feelings. They have bottom lines. People in corporations may have feelings, but that is not how capitalism works. They are their to do a job. If a corporation wants to promote itself based on promoting someone’s rights, it can start with workers rights and trade unions within its own business operations as they are directly responsible for it.

What the employees or customers do in their own privacy should be a long way down the list by comparison.

Who said anything about sex education? This is a campaign about bullying and discrimination against young people based on how they're perceived.

...based on the perception that they may have sex with someone who is there own gender.

the sex part is kind of the crucial bit because thats what the bullying and discrimination is directed against and what the charity is going to have to counter.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Is that even the case?

I have just read the text. It makes clear that there is something called LGBTQ rights that Kellog's does not feel ashamed of supporting, and that it is associated with something called Spirit Day that has its own hashtag and may have to do with the color purple. It also hints of some looser association with the rainbow colors in general.

So it comes down to whether reading age children should be told about LGBTQ rights. Is that even in doubt?

I don't think that even qualifies as part of sex education. It is just a matter of basic human decency.

We use products with a specific purpose in mind. So I do not need my toaster saying “its ok to be gay”. I want it to make toast. Thats what friends are for- not products or corporations.

Its as weird as heterosexual men being told buying an expensive fast car will make you a sex symbol amongst the ladies. Its a car! It gets you from a to b!

Imagine what that would look like with a Washing machine? “Hey bad boy, you’re so dirty. put that heavy load in and make it spin round . ....” No. Thats still weird. :eek:

We don’t need Inanimate objects commenting on our sexual orientation in our daily lives. Surely, we’re not that insecure?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
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Yep, children would never type those letters into a search engine and become exposed to gay is best propaganda

They get all sorts of 'x is best' propoganda thrust on them every single day, by all sorts of groups, including Christian ones.
We just decided to be transparent with our kids and educate them on things like bias and advertising.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
We use products with a specific purpose in mind. So I do not need my toaster saying “its ok to be gay”. I want it to make toast. Thats what friends are for- not products or corporations.

Its as weird as heterosexual men being told buying an expensive fast car will make you a sex symbol amongst the ladies. Its a car! It gets you from a to b!

Imagine what that would look like with a Washing machine? “Hey bad boy, you’re so dirty. put that heavy load in and make it spin round . ....” No. Thats still weird. :eek:

We don’t need Inanimate objects commenting on our sexual orientation in our daily lives. Surely, we’re not that insecure?
I take it that you are not big on symbolism?

People make associations. Tangible things bring memories, expectations, have subjective meanings. Marketing often seeks to take advantage of those associations to direct our purchases.

That is not a new thing, nor is it even truly a corporations thing.

In this specific case, I still do not understand why you insist on framing it as being about sex education when it is really about civic respect towards diversity.

The way I see it, it actually can't be perceived as a matter of sex education anyway. Children are supposed to know about LGBTIQ already. If it is in any way a novelty to them by the time that they read the text in the back of that cereal box, then we have been failing those children.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
We use products with a specific purpose in mind. So I do not need my toaster saying “its ok to be gay”. I want it to make toast. Thats what friends are for- not products or corporations.
Society routinely attaches moral values to the companies they buy from. That’s why we have “woke” campaigns and boycotts. Granted I don’t really go into that, but I can understand why companies wish to present a specific image to the public (even if it’s just superficial.) It’s PR 101 really. If your company is found to be run by like I dunno racists or something, people will protest. Especially youth. Companies respond to this with campaigns designed to send a message of support to whatever is socially popular. Appealing to their intended demographic’s personal values. That’s just advertising. Not sure why that would be surprising in this day and age. Companies have been doing that since the Stone Age.


Its as weird as heterosexual men being told buying an expensive fast car will make you a sex symbol amongst the ladies. Its a car! It gets you from a to b!

Imagine what that would look like with a Washing machine? “Hey bad boy, you’re so dirty. put that heavy load in and make it spin round . ....” No. Thats still weird. :eek:

Have you never heard the adage “sex sells.” That’s so old our grandparents were probably exposed to advertising designed to connect a product to sexual dominance of some variety.
I mean come on. Have you never seen an ad before?
Even McDonald’s uses sex to sell burgers!

the sex part is kind of the crucial bit because thats what the bullying and discrimination is directed against and what the charity is going to have to counter.
No, gay people are bullied because they are the “other.” That’s just your run of the mill standard tribalism.
Although your immediate connection between homosexuality and pure sex does concern me. Seriously that’s how your society perceives gay people? Only through sex? That’s pretty messed up. Not as much as connecting gay people to predatory behaviours but still pretty screwy. Maybe you guys should invest more in legitimate sex education or something? Cause like mate, I thought I had my head planted firmly in the gutter. But holy hell, that’s an epic Freudian slip right there.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
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"Kellogg’s recently announced that it would be selling six of its most popular cereals in one box for a promotion called “All Together” while making a $50,000 donation to support anti-bullying and advocacy causes on behalf of GLAAD Spirit Day.

So if you’re the sort of person who loves Frosted Flakes and Frosted Mini Wheats (what is wrong with you), then you’re in luck!


BelongTogetherCereal.png



We all belong together. So for the first time in history, our famous mascots and cereals are offered exclusively together in the same box for All Together Cereal. It’s a symbol of acceptance no matter how you look, where you’re from or who you love.
Sure. I mean, they’re just selling you six boxes of cereal, at least two of which no real human should ever want, but if it’s for a good cause, I’ll suck it up and have some Raisin Bran. If you’re cynical, you just shrug this off as a corporate attempt to sell you something in the name of a good cause. But it’s also a good sign when large companies throw their support behind groups like GLAAD.

No wonder conservative Christians are furious.

The three moms at One Million Moms (Twitter count: 3759) have already launched a protest.

Kellogg’s has supported the homosexual community for a long time, and now it is obvious they are going after our children… Kellogg’s goal is to normalize the LGBTQ lifestyle by using cereal mascots to brainwash children. The company is also donating $50,000 to GLAAD to support its anti-bullying and LGBTQ advocacy work.

These people seriously think Tony the Tiger will make you gay. (Snap, Crackle, and Pop AND Toucan Sam? That’s bestiality AND incest!)

Creationist Ken Ham also chimed in since he wasn’t busy updating his exhibits.


We are not "All together," as the LGBTQ lifestyle/worldview is anti-God, anti-biblical & anti-science and consists of only a small minority in the culture. But many will "All Together" not support such in your face anti-Christian marketing!
Imagine seeing a cereal box and thinking it’s a form of Christian Persecution. Imagine how flimsy your worldview must be when a smiling sun threatens everything you stand for. Imagine being a Creationist and calling other people “anti-science.” No wonder Ham looks so angry all the time…

Anyway, buy the cereal or don’t. But revel in the fact that some Christians are whining because a cereal company said people should be kind to one another.

They could easily be mad about the amount of sugar in this stuff, but they’ve chosen to attack the message of acceptance and inclusion instead.
source
Considering that

"In 2018, Kellogg's global operating profit amounted to about 1.71 billion U.S. dollars."
source
Their $50,000 donation is chump change.

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Amen.

I wonder if they would consider making one without raisins...
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
I hate to sound old-fashioned but a cereal promoting LGBT rights is...err... kind of "weird"..

I mean, most adults avoid the conversation about "where babies come from" and look awkwardly at each other. They skip the whole "When a guy likes a guy, or a girl likes a girl..." side of the discussion because that's generally too advanced even for most adults.

So it's a strange situation when reading the back of a Cereal Box is now part of a child's sex education. Just...think about that for a second... :confused:

Think about what it is like for a child whose sexuality doesnt conform to the heterosexual standard who might reach puberty not knowing what might he "wrong with them". If ones sexually repressed family isnt able to discuss such things then what else does that child who is approaching their sexuality going to have to understand that very personal aspect of themselves?
 
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