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Religious Lineage

peaceful

Member
Having recently researched the lineage from God, Adam to Noah through to Jesus I have found along the way that Muhammad the great Islamic prophet's lineage is traced from Noah and the great floods and the creation of the world. It is with this I ask
"Where did the word of God go wrong? Why is there not the one religion as it was intended? Why if all gods children through blood lineage do we fight to be the highest power or the correct religion? Who caused the great rift and who is covering up what? Christians, Catholics or Muslims?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Ummm.... Some reputable scholars of religion might possibly just maybe consider Catholics to be Christians.
 

Sola'lor

LDSUJC
What people need to bring them closer to God is different. So God will give different things to different people in order to bring them closer to Him. I don't believe any religion on Earth teaches the principles the God actually wants us to live. But I believe they are like stepping stones. All at different levels that help us get to the level that God wants us to be at. Everyone learns and progresses differently. I believe God knows this and has given us various teachings to help each of us come to Him through our individuality.
 

peaceful

Member
For lack of choice, I blame the catholics ;)[/
Is it not the Christians who destroyed most of the 7 wonders and have hidden many important documents? But then is it not the Catholics that sentenced Jesus to the cross? And to also cover up many truths? Take your pick. Then the muselims deny the right of jesus
 
What people need to bring them closer to God is different. So God will give different things to different people in order to bring them closer to Him. I don't believe any religion on Earth teaches the principles the God actually wants us to live. But I believe they are like stepping stones. All at different levels that help us get to the level that God wants us to be at. Everyone learns and progresses differently. I believe God knows this and has given us various teachings to help each of us come to Him through our individuality.
But how do you explain the fact that the bible claims that none can get to the Father except through Jesus Christ alone.
 

peaceful

Member
But how do you explain the fact that the bible claims that none can get to the Father except through Jesus Christ alone.

That is exactly what I am saying. God allows all to speak to him! There are no different levels of anything. Man and their ignorance have created levels over time. Does everyone realise that there would be no killing, no wars, no famine if we all lived as one as was intended. It is religion and politics that have created levels and mans greed and need for suppression!
 

+Xausted

Well-Known Member
That is exactly what I am saying. God allows all to speak to him! There are no different levels of anything. Man and their ignorance have created levels over time. Does everyone realise that there would be no killing, no wars, no famine if we all lived as one as was intended. It is religion and politics that have created levels and mans greed and need for suppression!
but if man created religion, and it is run by man, then surley it is not religion at fault but man himself
 

peaceful

Member
What would happen to religious beliefs if a complete family tree depiciting this lineage was revealed to the world? Is it true one exists hidden by the Welsh?


Having recently researched the lineage from God, Adam to Noah through to Jesus I have found along the way that Muhammad the great Islamic prophet's lineage is traced from Noah and the great floods and the creation of the world. It is with this I ask
"Where did the word of God go wrong? Why is there not the one religion as it was intended? Why if all gods children through blood lineage do we fight to be the highest power or the correct religion? Who caused the great rift and who is covering up what? Christians, Catholics or Muslims?
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
What would happen to religious beliefs if a complete family tree depiciting this lineage was revealed to the world? Is it true one exists hidden by the Welsh?
I've heard it was secreted away by the Flemish. And the Bosque have their own version.
 

peaceful

Member
Yes! This is true! What man though? This is my question. It wasn't God, it wasn't Jesus, it wasn't Muhammad. It is the Kings, Queens and Politicians who keep the world as it is. God is the creator, Jesus and Muhammad direct decendants to a complete lineage of rulers. Messiahs! True peace supressed by the need of others to dominate!
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Yes! This is true! What man though? This is my question. It wasn't God, it wasn't Jesus, it wasn't Muhammad. It is the Kings, Queens and Politicians who keep the world as it is. God is the creator, Jesus and Muhammad direct decendants to a complete lineage of rulers. Messiahs! True peace supressed by the need of others to dominate!
The Baghavad Gita predates all of that. The lineage traces back into the shamans of prehistory and to the first conscious word - lost to all but the most ardent spiritual practitioners.
 

peaceful

Member
Could be know ones knows. But it is not that hard to trace another! Would it be the end of the Catholic Church? Would the English Monarch no longer be in power?




doppelgänger;1122144 said:
I've heard it was secreted away by the Flemish. And the Bosque have their own version.
 

peaceful

Member
And who was that? For the most part Christians, Catholics, Muslims they all believe mostly the same. They just supress the little things they want to. We need to read between the lines.


doppelgänger;1122147 said:
The Baghavad Gita predates all of that. The lineage traces back into the shamans of prehistory and to the first conscious word - lost to all but the most ardent spiritual practitioners.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
And who was that? For the most part Christians, Catholics, Muslims they all believe mostly the same. They just supress the little things they want to. We need to read between the lines.
Nope. The reading has to occur completely off the page.
 

peaceful

Member
Why? Just another I am right you are wrong answer. I wonder whether history tells us the truth? Can one piece together the answers from ancestory? can we remove the facade and pretence those in power put there to rule? Can we get to the truth? It appears to many faiths they really are all on the same page - just not quite there!
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Why? Just another I am right you are wrong answer.
Not at all. Who isn't right? Who isn't wrong?

I wonder whether history tells us the truth?
History is a slave, not a Master.

Can one piece together the answers from ancestory?
Which answers?

It appears to many faiths they really are all on the same page - just not quite there!
That's because they're stuck on the page. The answers aren't on the page.
 

Sola'lor

LDSUJC
But how do you explain the fact that the bible claims that none can get to the Father except through Jesus Christ alone.

I personally believe that to be true. However It could simply be that belief in Christ is a way God has given us to allow certain types of people to come closer to the level He wants us to be at. What if Christ is completely irrelevent but belief in Him is te only way certain types of people could be able to develope closer to God.

But as I said before I believe that none can go to the Father except through Christ.
 
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