Religious Right, Abortion, and Death Penality

[Fool]

is it hypocritical to advocate for killing a conscious being that is viable and be upset over the termination of a fetus who is neither fully conscious or viable?

 

[Yazata]

is it hypocritical to advocate for killing a conscious being that is viable and be upset over the termination of a fetus who is neither fully conscious or viable?

Maybe, maybe not.

I assume that the justification for capital punishment is that the individual put to death deserves it as the result of his/her legal/moral transgressions.

But a new person who hasn't even entered the world yet can be guilty of no similar transgressions.

 

[Fool]

Maybe, maybe not.

I assume that the justification for capital punishment is that the individual put to death deserves it as the result of his/her legal/moral transgressions.

But a new person who hasn't even entered the world yet can be guilty of no similar transgressions.

this isn't true as based on the bible.

john 9:1-3

jesus doesn't refute the idea of sin being pre-existent for a new carnation.

even spirits can sin. spirits carry karma until it is met

 

[Heyo]

Maybe, maybe not.

I assume that the justification for capital punishment is that the individual put to death deserves it as the result of his/her legal/moral transgressions.

But a new person who hasn't even entered the world yet can be guilty of no similar transgressions.

Yeah, that's the usual excuse. But those people shouldn't call themselves "pro life" because they aren't.

 

[Altfish]

is it hypocritical to advocate for killing a conscious being that is viable and be upset over the termination of a fetus who is neither fully conscious or viable?

Yes, and put advocating guns in that equation.

 

[metis]

Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?

 

[Revoltingest]

In MI, we're seeing a fundie candidate who
wants to make even contraception illegal.
She even hints at banning sex outside of
marriage between a man & a woman.
Of course....Trump backs her.
This Trump-Backed Candidate Wants to Ban Birth Control
Support Jacky now!

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

is it hypocritical to advocate for killing a conscious being that is viable and be upset over the termination of a fetus who is neither fully conscious or viable?

Yes.

 

[SomeRandom]

In MI, we're seeing a fundie candidate who
wants to make even contraception illegal.
She even hints at banning sex outside of
marriage between a man & a woman.
Of course....Trump backs her.
This Trump-Backed Candidate Wants to Ban Birth Control
Support Jacky now!

All I can say is

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

is it hypocritical to advocate for killing a conscious being that is viable and be upset over the termination of a fetus who is neither fully conscious or viable?

Yet another example of how if we assume that the anti-choice movement is based on a concern for (what they consider to be) human life, it often makes no sense at all, but if we assume it's based on a desire to punish women for having sex they disapprove of, the movement is entirely consistent.

 

[gsa]

Yet another example of how if we assume that the anti-choice movement is based on a concern for (what they consider to be) human life, it often makes no sense at all, but if we assume it's based on a desire to punish women for having sex they disapprove of, the movement is entirely consistent.

What do you make of people who support the whole/consistent life ethic? There are people who reject abortion, capital punishment, assisted suicide and war for philosophical and theological reasons that they can articulate pretty well. They are also generally supportive of social welfare improvements (i.e. universal health care, support for poor families, etc).

 

[Heyo]

What do you make of people who support the whole/consistent life ethic? There are people who reject abortion, capital punishment, assisted suicide and war for philosophical and theological reasons that they can articulate pretty well. They are also generally supportive of social welfare improvements (i.e. universal health care, support for poor families, etc).

I have great respect for those people. At least they are consistent. But they are usually too busy to stand outside of planed parenthood or partake in discussions about abortion on the internet.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What do you make of people who support the whole/consistent life ethic? There are people who reject abortion, capital punishment, assisted suicide and war for philosophical and theological reasons that they can articulate pretty well. They are also generally supportive of social welfare improvements (i.e. universal health care, support for poor families, etc).

- I'd say that they're rare.

- trying to ban abortion or medical assistance in dying is still cruel and harmful, even if it's consistent with a coherent belief system.

- I would expect that there's still a fair bit of hypocrisy in their belief system, since denying the humanity of a pregnant person or someone dying of a terminal disease sure doesn't sound consistent with a "whole life ethic" to me.