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Religulous

UnityNow101

Well-Known Member
"Religion must die for mankind to live" is an exact quote from the movie. So is, "Religion is detrimental to humanity." There is also, "Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking." And how about, "That's it. Grow up or die." There is no reason to doubt me about this. Go see the movie and confirm this before you criticize me for what Bill Maher said during the film. I have no reason to lie about what he said....

'Religulous': Bill Maher's sermon against religion is a snide set-up - Movies News and Reviews: cleveland.com
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
I like Bill Maher, but this just seems like a movie geared towards showing how "stupid" religious people are. I think I'll pass.
His interview on the Colbert Report seems to indicate that Maher doesn't understand the religious one bit.
 
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Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Maher is not attempting to get into the debate of whether or not religion is true, or which is better between atheism and theism. He is just fascinated with people's knowledge or lack thereof of their religion and some of the questions about their religion.
Ha! I was right. It's just like Rick Mercer's "Talking to Americans", and probably just as lame.
 

rojse

RF Addict
Ha! I was right. It's just like Rick Mercer's "Talking to Americans", and probably just as lame.

But don't you think it interesting how some less educated people force conflicting religious ideas together, such as theist theistic atheism, and Christians that do not believe in God? Or that many people have strong views on the interpretations of the bible, without having learnt anything about Jewish history? Or...

Wait a minute, I don't, actually.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
But don't you think it interesting how some less educated people force conflicting religious ideas together, such as theist theistic atheism, and Christians that do not believe in God? Or that many people have strong views on the interpretations of the bible, without having learnt anything about Jewish history? Or...

Wait a minute, I don't, actually.
I find it fascinating that very few people care to know what "myth" is.
 

andys

Andys
This film is long overdue. Regrettably, we live in a lopsided world where the religious point of view is largely unchallenged. Major Hollywood films like "The Ten Commandments", "The Robe", "The Passion of Christ" effectively evoke a sense of authenticity for the historicity of Jesus Christ and the existence of God. The television media is conspicuously right wing, espousing its entangled political-religious propaganda, while fundamentalist evangelists contaminate the airwaves with their self-serving plea for viewers to save themselves by "reaching deep into their pockets" to subsidize the rescue mission.

In his stride, Bill Maher pokes fun at the lunacy of religion (no great feat considering the vast scope of material at his disposal). However, he recognizes the crux of the issue and goes further. He calls to attention the root of the problem—the real danger of organized religion: its mission to convert or conquer the "infidel". In so doing, he elevates his film from a comedy to a call to arms, alerting the complacent or beguiled to wake up and take notice.

He recognizes that religion is worse than sheer lunacy or some form of neurosis, it is an organized force to be reckoned with. Theocracy after theocracy attest loudly and clearly to the horrible consequences of being beguiled by the notion of a benevolent Father who offers us unconditional love, or the familiar bribe of a blissful afterlife. These are the bait that conceal a religion's hidden agenda—absolute authority. By force or otherwise, such religions infiltrate the political system, the judiciary, and the educational system in order to seize control. Having reached this end, all who oppose the established theocracy's "legal" demand for conformity to its dogma, laws, customs, dress, even diets, are effectively silenced, one way or another.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
One of the reviews stated:

"Was Maher afraid he might muddy his clownish jape if he actually brought into the mix a learned theologian?"

I am supposed to go see it Thursday
 

stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
Uhh I don't get what all this *****ing is about...not talking to anyone "learned" or qualified? None of the people he talked to were stupid (although some were a little out there...but that's an individual thing). Actually a LOT of the people he talked to were either THE leader or a leader of their respective faiths. But what exactly is wrong with talking to an average person about their faith anyway?
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Uhh I don't get what all this *****ing is about...not talking to anyone "learned" or qualified? None of the people he talked to were stupid (although some were a little out there...but that's an individual thing). Actually a LOT of the people he talked to were either THE leader or a leader of their respective faiths. But what exactly is wrong with talking to an average person about their faith anyway?
I also wondered what a "learned theologian" would bring to the mix. With so many different interpretations and worship for God, how could Maher possibly pinpoint an authority?
 

andys

Andys
Calling upon a theologian—"qualified" or not—to offer his views on religion is like asking an expert UFO hunter to enlighten us about flying saucers. All you can expect is a biased viewpoint.

This raises the question, what qualifications constitute authoritative knowledge on this matter? I suspect that the qualifications saught will depend on the answer desired.

In any case, what is it that needs to be explained? What aspect of religion is unclear? That is the only question that I find puzzling.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Uhh I don't get what all this *****ing is about...not talking to anyone "learned" or qualified? None of the people he talked to were stupid (although some were a little out there...but that's an individual thing). Actually a LOT of the people he talked to were either THE leader or a leader of their respective faiths. But what exactly is wrong with talking to an average person about their faith anyway?

Everyone calling for a learned theologian misses the point. The point is not to debate whether or not religion is correct or God exists or any other theological or philosophical point. The point is to be amused at believers who don't understand what they believe.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Everyone calling for a learned theologian misses the point. The point is not to debate whether or not religion is correct or God exists or any other theological or philosophical point. The point is to be amused at believers who don't understand what they believe.
I have a feeling Maher will bring a lot of this to the fore front.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
The film was great and Bill touched down on most of the world's organized religions. It was interesting to note that his agenda was one of curiosity and he approached the subject by just asking reasonable questions and it didn't take long for the person he was interviewing to incriminate themselves. Also, if you watch this movie, pay close attention to how many people that Maher talks to who aren't listening. Most of them are not interested in rational religious discussion or enlightenment, they are more interested in preserving their faith.
 
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Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Calling upon a theologian—"qualified" or not—to offer his views on religion is like asking an expert UFO hunter to enlighten us about flying saucers.
That is intellectually bankrupt bigotry, but at least it insures that you'll never pay attention to anything until you first confirm that it panders to your own presuppositions. How comforting for you. :rolleyes:
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
That is intellectually bankrupt bigotry, but at least it insures that you'll never pay attention to anything until you first confirm that it panders to your own presuppositions. How comforting for you. :rolleyes:

This is just plain laughable, especially coming from you.
 
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